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« on: February 18, 2009, 01:08:03 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOR1wUqvJS4&eurl=http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=80783

Rather you agree with her or not she did a good job.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 01:16:24 AM »

Well, I'm sure you know my stand on the issue, but this girl was clearly coached just like a child actor is.

You just can tell by how over-dramatic it is.  My guess is that her parents used her to do this to make more of an impact!
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 01:19:54 AM »

I don't know and the reason I say that is because when my daughter was 13 she did a research paper about birth control and teens. I didn't help her out one bit. She found all the information on her own. Children are very resourceful and with the internet it makes their research a lot easier.

Oh and talk about being dramatic my daughter is one for that. I don't know where she gets it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 01:36:10 AM »

I don't think children of that age should be dealing with such issues.  Outwardly, because of all the information they are given, they seem more mature for their age; but realistically they're still mentally immature.  Thus, all the problems that have arisen out of giving children information beyond their years.

I can't begin to imagine a 13-year-old writing a paper on birth control nor would I allow that with my children--too young!
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 01:43:18 AM »

My 13 year old decided to write the paper against birth control and I was very proud of her. I don't think teen girls should be on birth control and she wasn't so she wrote the paper on the side effects of birth control.

Rather we like it or not they do know about sex and with it all around them they have to be informed. As their parents we can decide how we want to teach them but bottom line they will do what they want. Luckily in the area of sex my girls as teens made good choices. Now with drinking that was a whole different thing  laughing little buggers had to push that one.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 01:49:43 AM »

I just bring up my children saying that others are "jerks" for doing this and that, and it works; and I never had to talk sex with them either.

Both my boys, 14 and 16, don't feel they're old enough to date even though girls call all the time; and they tell me how all the other guys go around school bragging about who they did and where they did it.  They think that they're jerks.  You don't have to get into detail about anything; you just have to make sure they understand what is bad behavior and what is acceptable and everything will then fall into place.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 01:58:05 AM »

That's great if you feel it works for you. Just yesterday one of my sisters told me how her son called her and said he started smoking. She always told me that he would tell her everything and they have a great relationship. I told her I don't mean to be difficult here but I promise you they are not telling you everything. Now she knows I was right. Think back. I never told my parents everything I did. I can tell you this I did a lot of praying and now that they are grown I am finding out what they did do as teens. Let's just say good thing I didn't know then what I know now. I would have had a nervous breakdown.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 02:10:29 AM »

Overall, it worked much better pre- sex, drug, and alcohol education.

For the most part, the wool couldn't be pulled over my mother's eyes; and my boys wouldn't be able to do it to me.

From the day they were born, I simply kept telling them what was stupid, wrong, immoral, and unethical even while changing their diaper; and it's stuck with them.

They also think smoking, chewing tobacco, and drinking is stupid.  Even if any of their friends are doing it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 02:23:37 AM »

I think every parent tells their children all these things are wrong. Well maybe not all. That sister of mine said the same thing about her son and how he said it's dumb and he would never do that.

Seriously I'm glad you feel so confident and I hope it all works out for you. I can only speak for me and my aquaintances who now have grown children.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 02:41:06 AM »

I think most parents fail in educating their children in "right and wrong".  The earlier in life it's done, the more of it that gets crammed in their sub-conscience which eventually will guide their decisions.

My children don't tell me they won't do something; they just end up repeating to me what I crammed into their heads from day one--stupid, stupid, stupid!

I like the phrase "children are a product of their parents"; and, looking at today's children in general, it's not a good product!
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 08:16:51 AM »

I wrote a paper on prostitution in Victorian England when I was 14. And read Justine (or The Misfortunes of Virtue) and Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis...which explains a lot laughing
What do you think of young children viewing childbirth? scratch I've spoken with several people lately who decided not to have children themselves after being present at the birth of their little brother or sister...I wonder if its traumatic for kids who have never seen birth before? I was delivering pigs at six, it did not bother me.

I don't think children of that age should be dealing with such issues. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 08:23:34 AM »

I think it's okay for children to be on the sidelines but not right there at the goal line! laughing  That's too much to see.  Plus, I believe it to be a private thing between the husband and the wife.

Then, there are those who make the whole delivery room a big party! scratch

Any papers of sexual/birth control content would never have been allowed in the schools I attended or in my children's school.
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