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« on: April 03, 2008, 04:58:37 AM »

Im a little upset about this.  my daughters teacher want to hold her back this year because she has an F in math. I dont think that is right. Why hold her back because of one class. I dont get math either. I believe you either get math or you dont. I dont, never have, never will.   cussing  She doesnt get it. my oldest boy doesnt get it. Math stinks!!!!!!!..  This is what my daughter brought home yesterday on her report card.....

English C
PE/Health C
Social Studies B
Math F
Science C
Music C
Literature A

ok, she isnt an honor roll student but she is passing everything but math. how can they hold her back for one class.  I think it would do more harm than good to hold her back. She would be in the same grade as her brother(not good) most of her friends would be in the next grade(except for those that fail also  crazy tongue ) and alot of the stuff would be redundant for her and make her care even less in my opinion.  what do yall think? Is it fair to hold a kid back for one subject.  I will spend the 200 bucks and send her to summer school for the math if thats what it takes.
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 05:07:00 AM »

Hey that looks like a good report card except for the math grade. Can she go to summer school?
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 05:12:53 AM »

Hey that looks like a good report card except for the math grade. Can she go to summer school?

I think so but it cost 200.00 per subject. Thank god its only one. I will find out this afternoon if she can go.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 05:33:02 AM »

My oldest son is in 6th grade and he's been having trouble with math since 5th grade.  I get math...just have trouble getting what they call the "new math."  Twice as hard to get the same answer using the "new math" so I've been showing him how to do it the old school way.  I spoke with his teacher before doing so and she said she didn't care as long as he understood the concept of finding the solution to a problem.

tiff-to answer your question, I do not think she should be held back because of one bad grade in one subject.  Maybe she'll catch on before the year is over or maybe she'll get it come next year or maybe you can do the summer school thing.  Bottom line is she shouldn't be held back when she's passing everything else.  So she has a little trouble in math...who doesn't?  Doesn't mean she should have to repeat the entire grade because she isn't getting math right now.  Please. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 06:52:18 AM »

$200 is alot, but compared to having to repeat a grade, not so bad.

I know when I got to algebra, I just didn't get it. So I stayed in the "box" classes as we called it.  The "slow" classes. lol. Like it was called Applied math. I still had trouble getting that too.
I finally had to have my mom tutor me. Sometimes she would sit there for hours until I got it. (it helps that my mom was great and math, she is now a math teacher)

My mom and I were talking about this the other day. She told me she sometimes got so upset, because when I was trying to do my homework, I would just sit there for an hour or so, day dreaming.  laughing
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 07:05:47 AM »

darn.  Made a reference to the wrong person.  Sorry, 3mnkids1.  I gotta quit doing that!
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 07:12:32 AM »

darn.  Made a reference to the wrong person.  Sorry, 3mnkids1.  I gotta quit doing that!

Thats ok. I knew who ya meant  laughing 

$200 is alot, but compared to having to repeat a grade, not so bad.

I know when I got to algebra, I just didn't get it. So I stayed in the "box" classes as we called it.  The "slow" classes. lol. Like it was called Applied math. I still had trouble getting that too.
I finally had to have my mom tutor me. Sometimes she would sit there for hours until I got it. (it helps that my mom was great and math, she is now a math teacher)

My mom and I were talking about this the other day. She told me she sometimes got so upset, because when I was trying to do my homework, I would just sit there for an hour or so, day dreaming.  laughing

I was a senior in high school taking freshmen math and still couldn't get it.  scratch  unfortunately the kids get that from me
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 07:25:20 AM »

I don't get people who don't get math.... Smile

Definitely see if she can take the subject in summer school.

Also ask if they'll take gift cards to cover the $200 fee. Or see if there is any other prizes you've won that they could use.... Smile

Good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 07:43:05 AM »

I don't get people who don't get math.... Smile



I don't get people who get math   crazy tongue
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 09:53:50 AM »

I don't get people who don't get math.... Smile



I don't get people who get math   crazy tongue

I agree Tiffy!  I just wasn't one who "got" it until I got into Geometry ~ when I hit that I was in my element!  I could do it backwards and forwards!  It was just easy for me...people were amazed!

Back to the thread...I don't think I would hold my child back...I would do summer school...if I could, I would buy the math book that they just completed and get a tutor to help her a few hours each week during the summer so she can "catch up".  If she goes in behind she will never catch up.  You build on what you know in math...unfortunately, I knew and know NOTHING!  I can't help my own kids...ask Z!!!
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 05:23:01 PM »

 crazy tongue  How frustrating for your daughter. Hearing that kind of news is sure to put her on an emotional roller coaster. So sorry.  cry Besides summer school also check with the school to see if they have a list of tutors.  When I was in school I would tutor kids that needed help. I did it for free but even if you have to pay it may be better getting one on one than summer school.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 10:59:56 PM »

well they said she can still pass with the one F as long as she keeps the other grades up.  she has got to keep up science and English. If they fall just a few points she is in trouble.  nono   We are going to find a summer math program for her. Its not going to get any easier and she needs help.  I wish I could help her but I stopped being able to do that when she was in third grade... ok, maybe second.  laughing
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 04:06:30 AM »

I was thinking about you guys this morning, mnkids, as I was getting the boys ready for school.  Grade cards come out today and my oldest is a tad nervous about his math grade.  He's been trying, really trying, this grade period unlike before.

I feel you on wishing you could help more.  I get nervous when I know he has math homework because if he isn't getting something and if I'm unable to get it, I feel I'm letting him down.  We've spent 2 hours looking stuff up online just to get an idea of what we're doing. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 04:26:04 AM »

I was thinking about you guys this morning, mnkids, as I was getting the boys ready for school.  Grade cards come out today and my oldest is a tad nervous about his math grade.  He's been trying, really trying, this grade period unlike before.

I feel you on wishing you could help more.  I get nervous when I know he has math homework because if he isn't getting something and if I'm unable to get it, I feel I'm letting him down.  We've spent 2 hours looking stuff up online just to get an idea of what we're doing. 

keeping my fingers crossed that its good for him and you.  Its hard when ya see them struggling and they just want to give up.  Atleast he is trying. Thats all I ask my daughter. Just try and do your best. I dont expect A's. It would be nice but I dont want to pressure my kids that way. good luck. let me know how it goes.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 05:39:43 AM »

Yep, exactly!  I don't want to add any more pressure onto him in an already pressure-cooker situation.  I finally told him last night that if he gets a D then it will be a hard-earned D and I will be happy with that.  He thinks it'll be a C- so I'm hoping.

Hubby is so-so with it.  He says we shouldn't encourage the D but focus more on the C- and bettering that grade from there.  He's got a point, I know, but since I'm the one who helps our sons with the homework I see how far he has come and how hard he is trying and I can't bear to not give him his deserved credit.

Fingers crossed for both of our kids!!
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 10:19:30 AM »

Ashelyn ended up with an 86 B this 9 weeks...but she came home with a homework paper last night and was needing my help and I couldn't help her.  She gets so mad ~ I finally got out a review book that Jimmie had when he was testing for his job and sorta figured it out.  I told her that maybe she won't fail the paper, and if she does that she needs to ask the teacher to explain it again (she was absent that day)!  I dread Middle School cry
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 10:20:33 AM »

Hey, at least they're outta the house for a while! laughing
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2008, 10:54:37 AM »

Ashelyn ended up with an 86 B this 9 weeks...but she came home with a homework paper last night and was needing my help and I couldn't help her.  She gets so mad ~ I finally got out a review book that Jimmie had when he was testing for his job and sorta figured it out.  I told her that maybe she won't fail the paper, and if she does that she needs to ask the teacher to explain it again (she was absent that day)!  I dread Middle School cry

an 86 is a C here. Thats another thing that makes it so hard for mine. They are getting the same grades here that they did in FL but here its failing.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 10:58:06 AM »

Well, he did good.  Real good.  He brought the math grade up to a B.  We're excited.  He's got a dance tonight so I went out and bought him new shoes and a new outfit.  As we were coming home, I asked him what he was more excited about...his B or the dance.  He replied, "The dance, Mom, because I get to dance with Aderra.  She's got real nice hair.  But I'm glad I made you and dad happy."

I laughed and then kissed him and he let me  love
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 11:50:57 AM »

An 86 is a C in Middle School and High School so next year she is in trouble!
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2008, 04:35:53 AM »

Well, he did good.  Real good.  He brought the math grade up to a B.  We're excited.  He's got a dance tonight so I went out and bought him new shoes and a new outfit.  As we were coming home, I asked him what he was more excited about...his B or the dance.  He replied, "The dance, Mom, because I get to dance with Aderra.  She's got real nice hair.  But I'm glad I made you and dad happy."

I laughed and then kissed him and he let me  love

 headbang thats great. what a relief that must have been for both of ya.  sounds like a real sweet kid. how did the dance go?
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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2008, 07:06:03 AM »

Sweety, he's been talking about that dance non-stop.  He said they played 5 slow songs this time instead of the regular 3 which made him happy and nervous.  Happy to be slow dancing with Aderra, but nervous because the ex(we'll call her Sally) was glaring at them while fighting with her own date.

A little background on Psycho Sally-we moved for a short while back in 2007 before settling in here.  Before we'd moved, she broke up(if you wanna even call it that)w/son and started liking his best friend.  Son was 10 so he didn't care, really.  His feelings were a little hurt but it's not like they had some kind of love affair.  They were only 10 LOL  Anyways, when we moved back, he started hanging out at school with this little sweety named Aderra.  I love her to bits!  She's a typical 11 year old girl...not into having a "boyfriend."  She and my son get along really well and are inseperarable.  She likes football, baseball, skateboarding and my son loves that.

Son and Aderra always get a group of their friends together and meet up at the dance.  His guy friends and her girl friends.  They dance, get pics taken, hang out, eat, and just have fun.  Well, Sally hates it.  I mean really hates it.  She will glare at my son and Aderra and all of the others.  Well, last dance in Nov. 2007, she cornered Aderra in the bathroom and told her to stay away from my son.  Aderra went running out of the bathroom with Psycho Sally running after her.  Psycho Sally made a huge scene and threatened to whoop little Aderra.  It was a mess.  When I found out I was like huh?  The girl's 11!!  Way too young to be acting that way and shouldn't be acting like that, period. 

So I told son maybe Sally feels left out and he should invite her to hang out with all of them.  He did.  She flipped again last night after seeing son and Aderra dancing.  I told son to just stay away from her.  I'm going to have a talk with him later on tonight about it.  I don't want him being mean to her but I don't want him hanging out so much with her.  They're 11 years old, not 15, 16, etc.  I'm trying to be understanding.  I'm also trying to figure out how to make my son understand that her behavior is a little extreme, but not to ostracize her completely.  I mean, even though I am jokingly calling her Psycho Sally, she really is just a little girl and she doesn't need to be made to feel like a freak.  My son said that when she would call him her mom would yell, "Get off the phone you little biatch!" so that speaks volumes in itself about why she acts the way she does.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!!  laughing

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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2008, 07:47:22 AM »

yeah thats a little over the top for her age. wth? I would tell him to just stay away from her. If she is acting like this now imagine in a year or two.  nono  I had a similar problem last year with my daughter. This boy would tell her and everyone else that he was in love with her. made her very uncomfortable. they were 11 also.  She avoids him. He still tells her brother that he is in love with her. I think its kinda creepy.  Im happy he had a good time at the dance to bad little miss psycho had to be weird.  laughing 
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2008, 11:37:38 AM »

Yeah, it definately concerns me.  I remember being somewhat like that in my younger days with hubby.  OK, maybe a lot like that  laughing  But you get old or ya grow up and you realize how silly or stupid you were.  It makes me cringe cuz she's still SO young.  And my son isn't interested in girls like that.  It'll happen soon enough I know, but right now he's into sports and BB guns, not hooking up and being exclusive.  He's only 11 for goodness sakes LOL  He did, however call Aderra his girl and said she had real nice hair so I could be wrong  laughing
*putting back on my rose-colored blinders!*


And I hate this thread!!  I've been admitting poo left and right since coming in here!
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