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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 02:54:59 AM »


That's really a shame. I'm all for helping our vets.

Fillipino WWII vets get a one time payment???scratch
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-filipino-veterans4-2009feb04,0,7735618.story

(this thing confuses me no end!)
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A $198-million provision of the proposed Senate stimulus bill would authorize one-time payments of $15,000 to Filipino veterans who are U.S. citizens -- many of whom live in California -- and $9,000 for noncitizens, including those in the Philippines.

That is rediculous.
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 02:55:53 AM »

A $198-million provision of the proposed Senate stimulus bill would authorize one-time payments of $15,000 to Filipino veterans who are U.S. citizens -- many of whom live in California -- and $9,000 for noncitizens, including those in the Philippines.

It's called "PR".  It's more important for the U.S. government's image to keep foreign relations foremost and above domestic relations.
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 03:24:13 AM »

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We Are All Socialists Now
In many ways our economy already resembles a European one. As boomers age and spending grows, we will become even more French.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/183663

Becoming more French. I guess I will be going back to my roots.
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 03:30:24 AM »

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In many ways our economy already resembles a European one. As boomers age and spending grows, we will become even more French.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/183663

Becoming more French. I guess I will be going back to my roots.

I'm no socialist, and I'll continue to stand up against it.  It's all the citizens of this country who did nothing and failed to do everything that allowed this society to become socialistic--lazy and stupid. nono
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2009, 03:31:38 AM »

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In many ways our economy already resembles a European one. As boomers age and spending grows, we will become even more French.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/183663

Becoming more French. I guess I will be going back to my roots.

I'm no socialist, and I'll continue to stand up against it.  It's all the citizens of this country who did nothing and failed to do everything that allowed this society to become socialistic--lazy and stupid. nono

I'm not either.
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2009, 03:40:25 AM »

I thought this was a nice little read:

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/darticles/do_us_citizens_value_their_democ.htm
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2009, 04:08:59 AM »

Definitely interesting. Not sure I agree completely but he's got an interesting opinion.
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2009, 04:13:07 AM »

I pretty much share his views.  You learn a lot when you're involved with grassroots and see first-hand documents they can get their hands on.  Kudos to those government employees that have the guts to copy and distribute information on government wrong-doings.
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2009, 07:10:07 AM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/48_say_increased_government_spending_hurts_economy

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Forty-eight percent (48%) of U.S. voters say that, generally speaking, increased government spending is bad for the economy.

Thirty-five percent (35%) believe more government spending will help the economy, and seven percent (7%) say it’s likely to have no impact, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

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A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Americans agree with Obama and 41% do not.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114202/Obama-Upper-Hand-Stimulus-Fight.aspx

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The American public gives President Barack Obama a strong 67% approval rating for the way in which he is handling the government's efforts to pass an economic stimulus bill, while the Democrats and, in particular, the Republicans in Congress receive much lower approval ratings of 48% and 31%, respectively.

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These findings, based on Gallup Poll interviews conducted Feb. 6-7, underscore the degree to which Obama appears to be maintaining the upper hand over his opponents from a public opinion perspective as he and congressional leaders wrangle over the precise form and substance of a new economic stimulus plan. (Recent Gallup polling also shows that a slight majority of Americans in general favor the idea of passing a stimulus plan of around $800 billion, a sentiment that has stayed constant over the last several weeks.)
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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2009, 07:23:11 AM »

Actually I was just showing polls on the stimulus package not Obama approoval rating.

Guess polls are different.
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2009, 07:38:22 AM »

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114202/Obama-Upper-Hand-Stimulus-Fight.aspx
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The American public gives President Barack Obama a strong 67% approval rating for the way in which he is handling the government's efforts to pass an economic stimulus bill, while the Democrats and, in particular, the Republicans in Congress receive much lower approval ratings of 48% and 31%, respectively.

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Obama's recent efforts to create a sense of urgency that a new bill be passed would appear to resonate with at least half of the American public. The new Gallup Poll shows that a majority of Americans (51%) say passing a new economic stimulus plan is "critically important" for improving the nation's economy, while another 29% say it is important. Only 16% say it is "not that important."

 

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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2009, 07:40:22 AM »

I never gave too much validity to polls nor bother with them, but you might find this interesting:

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/campaignpolls/a/deconstructpoll.htm
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« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2009, 07:41:30 AM »

Like I said different polls. At least half. Hmmm that means half of Americans disagree.
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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2009, 07:43:09 AM »

I never gave too much validity to polls nor bother with them, but you might find this interesting:

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/campaignpolls/a/deconstructpoll.htm

So true.
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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2009, 07:46:43 AM »

or agree..  you say potato...
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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2009, 07:47:42 AM »

So true.

How many times have you gotten a question that you couldn't actually give your true answer to.  Surveys are great for those.  Polls are too.

When they pull that on the telephone, I give them my answer anyway rather than the choices; but they go and pick one out they think it's closest to! scratch nono

This way, they manipulate the outcome.
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« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2009, 07:53:13 AM »

Good thing we know polls are so accurate.  I sure do like the polls that lean my way  laughing
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