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« on: February 23, 2009, 01:22:47 AM »

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/07/google_says_pri.html;jsessionid=1WGWHXPQ2N2R0QSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN

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The headline practically says it all. Google (NSDQ: GOOG) is being sued by a Pittsburgh couple for posting images of its house on the Internet in Google's Street Views pages. Google responded, in court no less, that complete privacy simply doesn't exist in today's world and the couple should stop crying about it.

Google may be right, in theory. It said in papers filed with the court, "Today's satellite image technology means that even in today's desert, complete privacy does not exist." That's partially true. With satellites, cameras and other monitoring devices all being tied together by the Internet, it is becoming more and more difficult to completely isolate yourself from view.

But does that mean our privacy should be violated by large corporations looking to provide better mapping software? Shouldn't there be some boundaries that aren't trampled in the name of a better product? Google said in the court papers that that doesn't matter, and implied the idea of privacy is somewhat faulted.

The "Plaintiffs live in the 21st century United States, where every step upon private property is not deemed by law to be an actionable trespass. Unless there is a clear expression such as a gate, fence, or 'keep out' sign indicating that the public is not permitted to enter, anyone may approach a home by a walkway, driveway, or any other route commonly used by visitors, without liability for trespass." Google says the Pittsburgh couple in question had no such signs, and therefore should not have any expectation for privacy.

I can see Google's point here, but for Google to come out and say that privacy doesn't exist is not a great publicity move for the company.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 04:14:12 AM »

Big Brother is watching.  So is Big Sister, Big Cousin, Big Grandma, Big Creepy Uncle...

Privacy does not exist unless you are a hermit who doesn't use a computer or a credit card.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 04:21:26 AM »

Privacy does not exist unless you are a hermit who doesn't use a computer or a credit card.

You wait, then they will put your hut on the 24 hour "Hermit Cam" and it will become an online sensation....
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 05:06:02 AM »

privacy really doesnt exist. There are cameras every where you go. I wonder how many times a day we are caught on film while in public. now I could see the complaint if it was showing the inside of their home. You can google their address and get directions, you can pay companies online to find out everything about a person..etc.

http://www.winknews.com/news/local/11220536.html

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Cameras are everywhere.
Paying your tolls, getting cash at the ATM, getting gas, at the car wash, even at work, we are being watched.

The all knowing electronic eye makes many feel secure.
"It's wonderful because i don't have anything to hide," says Tom Shockney in Fort Myers.

But others feel uneasy.
"It's intrusive, voyeuristic and its information that could be used against me," say Jack Barden.

One study shows you are caught on close circuit TV's 300 times a day. But those cameras are also catching the crimes committed around you.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 05:16:19 AM »

I remember how when we discussed the book "1984" when I was a kid, no one believed that any of it would happen.  It was always "not here in this country".

In the end, we only have ourselves to blame since very few people ever make a stand against anything.  I did.  I never had my social security number attached to anything--credit cards, utility bills, etc.  I never had a picture on my license citing the violation of religious beliefs pertaining to images for this use.  Oh, it took a lot of arguing and citing certain laws; but I would win in the end.  Now, if everyone did stuff like this, we would protect most of our privacy.

Some woman took a picture of my husband's father's headstone and posted it on a site documenting same subject matter.  We were ticked to say the least and emailed this woman and told her to remove it, and that she has no right doing that without the permission of the family and how disrespectful it was for her to do this.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 05:23:44 AM »

Everyone here has used search engines to check their own names, right?  Different ones will find different things.  If I post information online, I can hardly complain when the search engines find it.  Other than posted wins and minor local stuff, I am usually not surprised by the search results.  However, my searches sometimes pull up this website that lists my name, former variations of my name, my father, my husband, my brother in law, etc... and links them all to me.  I have asked them to remove me, but they won't do it.  Yes, it's public information, but it makes me feel like someone is peering in the window.
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