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tiffandrock
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« on: December 05, 2007, 05:08:25 AM » |
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 I freaking hate mine. She is a really old rich women. She is a christian counslor, makes $50 an hour. Plus has 5 homes she rents out. Well everytime she comes to inspect our house. After she leaves, I cry. Not just tears, I sob so much. She is an evil little mean lady. Well today her problem was that my house is an awful mess. That the floors, bathroom, etc were really dirty. (ok yes I know that I hate cleaning, and they are dirty) but be a little nicer about it. Instead she says You need to clean this house, really get down and scrub it. Do you not clean. I said no I hate cleaning. And she said DO you think people live in houses and never clean. Bla bla bla. She looks in my eyes, and its almost like shes daring me to do something. About a year ago, My daughter colored on the walls with marker. The landlord had a fit. She was like IN all my years of renting, and being a mother, I have never had a child color on the walls. Do you watch your child? And her answer to everything is, money!! SHe charged us $200 to repaint the house. Guess what the house needs to be repainted agian. She told me she is coming back in a week to check on the house. If its not cleaned up then she will charge me. And get someone to clean it up. I said to her, I don't have any money. (Its almost as if she thinks everybody can just pull money out of their butt or something, like everyone just has money laying around). Grrrr. So she left, and here I am still freaking crying. My daughter is like mommy its ok. My husband is sleeping, he muttered, its not a big deal. I'm 23 freaking years old!! How many 23 yearolds do you know that can take care of a house? Clean it all nice, plus take care of a family, do college classes and a part time job on the side. I dont hate many people. But I hate her so much. She knows what to say to put me in a bad place. She never treats my husband like this. Sorry guys Im so upset. I just needed to vent.
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3mnkids1
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2007, 05:14:03 AM » |
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wow tiff. I have never heard of a landlord coming into your house. how often does she do that? how long have you lived there? your daughter shouldnt have written on the wall but she is a child. and if this women says she has never seen a child do that she is a LIAR!!.... and another thing. painting is considered maintence. I would tell her she can paint after your lease is up. as for cleaning up the house. well, ya know how I am about that. but that is not her business. wth!.
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tiffandrock
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2007, 05:27:51 AM » |
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Well the first time she asked us to give her money. We told her didn't the deposit cover that? We made her up front $750 for the deposit. Well she told us she is using that for something else? I wish we had another place to go but we don't.
RIght now our house is $795 a month. Its got 3 bd 1 bath, living and another open room. Its big, all the others are smaller and more expensive. So its not worth it to move.
My dad is sopposed to build us a house, but we don't have enough money right now to pay the morgage.
I really think when its time to move out it will be ugly.
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bunnytoes
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2007, 05:30:59 AM » |
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Good Grief!! Never have I ever heard of such a thing!! CHARGE YOU for not cleaning??!! I don't think so!! How you keep your house is none of her business. You do not have to answer to this woman. I don't even think something like that is legal. Is there anything in your contract that says she can come and inspect? If not, I would tell her to blow off. As far as painting....I don't know of anyone who doesn't have to usually paint after a house or apartment has been rented. Why in the world would she paint before your lease is up...that's crazy...she acts like she is living in it.
I'm sorry this horid old biddy made you feel bad. You have nothing to feel bad about. She doesn't pay your bills, and you need to tell her it's none of her business.
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bunnytoes
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2007, 05:34:46 AM » |
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Well the first time she asked us to give her money. We told her didn't the deposit cover that? We made her up front $750 for the deposit. Well she told us she is using that for something else? I wish we had another place to go but we don't.
RIght now our house is $795 a month. Its got 3 bd 1 bath, living and another open room. Its big, all the others are smaller and more expensive. So its not worth it to move.
My dad is sopposed to build us a house, but we don't have enough money right now to pay the morgage.
I really think when its time to move out it will be ugly.
DO NOT give her any more money!! If she doesn't have the money to paint because SHE wants to paint, then tough!! Also, don't let her back in the house. If she comes by, tell her it's not a good time or that your leaving or busy, or any excuse. I think she's going beyond her authority. |
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tiffandrock
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2007, 05:43:26 AM » |
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It is in the lease/contract. That she can come and inspect, and that things have to be cleaned. etc etc. Like air filters in the air thing. We do that now) but at first that was a huge thing for her. WE never knew people put air filters in there house. Growing up your dad or mom does stuff like that. The painting though really p'ed me off. I told her no. And my husband went behind my back and told her yes. Next thing i know I had came home and there were men in my house painting. And then she charged us money.
My husband doesnt like conflict, and he just listens to her. But me and her butt heads. I rarely ever talk to her.
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3mnkids1
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 05:45:05 AM » |
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Does she let you know ahead of time that she is coming? If no, next time she does tell her she has to give you notice. she cant just pop in whenever the hell she wants to. they can come in to do repairs but still need to give notice and I have never, never had a landlord pop up and say hey, we are here to inspect. as for the security what does she say she is using it for. A security deposit can not be used unless for repairs at the end of the lease. and she has to give you written notice of what she is using every single dime for and have proof. sounds like she is taking advantage of the fact that you are young and not likely to stand up to her. Stand up to her tiff. she has rules she has to follow.
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tharedhead
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 05:48:23 AM » |
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You should rent from our former landlord (I love that guy) Our nextdoor neighbors killed and dressed out a pig in their apartment one time. The landlord did tell them to use plastic the next time instead of newspaper but other than that he was cool with it. But he got invited to eat barbeque  |
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 08:40:29 AM » |
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* Florida Statutes, Section 83.51, require a tenant to comply with the local Property Maintenance Code. This means that the tenant must: 1. Keep the house or apartment in a clean and sanitary manner. 2. Remove all garbage from the house or apartment in a clean and sanitary manner (for example, use garbage cans). 3. Keep all plumbing fixtures in the house or apartment used by the tenant in a clean and sanitary manner and in good repair. 4. Properly use and operate all electrical, plumbing, sanitary, heating, ventilating, air conditioning and other facilities and appliances, including elevators, which are in the apartment or house. 5. Not destroy, damage or in any way misuse the property itself. This includes not permitting any tenant's guests to do so either. 6. Not remove anything from the house or apartment which does not belong to the tenant (for example, cannot remove light fixture which was in the property when tenant moved in). 7. Conduct themselves and require anyone who visits them to act in a way that does not disturb the peace. Sounds like the old lady is very familiar with her rights as landlord...you should contact someone about your tenant rights. If you're taking classes, check with the university. Many colleges provide free legal advice to students in such situations. Our nextdoor neighbors killed and dressed out a pig in their apartment one time. OMG...eew!  |
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lidarkside
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 09:34:07 AM » |
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Since I wasn't there, I can't comment on your landlady's demeaner. However, as a tenant you are required to keep the apartment/house in the same condition as it was when you moved in. This is her property, and it is an investment for her; and she wants to make sure that none of her property depreciates due to misuse and unkemptness. You have a daughter, and you should for her sake make sure you keep the house clean and tidy. Remember, she will learn to be who she will be from her parents. I'm not saying this to be mean, but you are a wife and mother, although young, and need to stop playing the victim and take responsibility for your actions. I hope you can at least think about that, and I wish you well.
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hairbandgirl
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 09:52:21 AM » |
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I'm 23 freaking years old!! How many 23 yearolds do you know that can take care of a house? Clean it all nice, plus take care of a family, do college classes and a part time job on the side. Several. I also know of a few who are still younger than that who do the same thing, plus more.
Maybe instead of sleeping, your husband should help out.
If your place is just 'messy and cluttered', I really dont see how she can make you pay to have a cleaner come in and clean it. But if things are 'destroyed' or falling apart, then I would have to side with her.
If she's really that bad, I would consider moving |
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cinphi
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 10:17:38 AM » |
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tiff I hope you feel better now that you have vented and I also hope you can get your husband to help you out around the house. I was wondering if she is going to come over then you could ask her to let you know before hand the next time I mean you do pay rent it's not like you are living there free so the renter must have some rights.
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tiffandrock
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 12:30:22 PM » |
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Yes I feel alot better. Thank you for letting me vent and whine. My house is cluttered, so it is hard to clean it. I have lots of shelves and things in the way. And we have a little bunny that likes to get loose. One of the spots the landlord was upset about was under are garbage can in the kitchen. The floor under it was scuzzy. LIke it looked like juice or something. I never move my garbage can, so I didn't really notice it. Oh well. I am going to clean. My husband said he will help me. He works nights, thats why he was sleeping in the day time. |
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lidarkside
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2007, 12:57:43 PM » |
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Don't overwhelm yourself or overthink the project ahead. Each day make it a priority to do one small section of the house at a time. Once it's clean, keep it that way. Keep doing it everyday in sections at a time; and, before you know it the whole house will be cleaned up and easier to keep that way. If you need any help about something just pm me. I'm a Felix Unger (The Odd Couple)--a neat freak.  |
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2007, 07:35:50 PM » |
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Since I wasn't there, I can't comment on your landlady's demeaner. However, as a tenant you are required to keep the apartment/house in the same condition as it was when you moved in. This is her property, and it is an investment for her; and she wants to make sure that none of her property depreciates due to misuse and unkemptness. You have a daughter, and you should for her sake make sure you keep the house clean and tidy. Remember, she will learn to be who she will be from her parents. I'm not saying this to be mean, but you are a wife and mother, although young, and need to stop playing the victim and take responsibility for your actions. I hope you can at least think about that, and I wish you well.
I agree with Lidarkside...I am a small-time landlord myself. I rent out three cabins to people. I inspect the cabins twice a year...and I look for overall cleanliness, maintenance issues, property damage, etc. I always provide 24 hour notice before entering a tenant's cabin (unless an emergency). Everything is specified in the lease that the tenants sign before they ever put up any money. I read the lease to them and make sure they understand. It IS an investment for the landlord. I do not want tenants in my cabins who are filthy or destructive (not saying that you are filthy tiff...). However, filth invites pests and can cause eventual damage. Marking on the walls is something that cannot be removed with soap and water. The walls would need to be repainted, and charged to the tenant. The security deposit I collect from the tenants is simply to ensure that the place is clean and not damaged (outside normal wear and tear) when the tenant MOVES OUT. The deposit does NOT cover any tenant-caused damages to the cabin while the tenant is renting there. Nor does the security deposit cover last month's rent (many tenants will try to move out w/o paying last month's rent...thinking their deposit would cover it...NOT!). My cabins are small, and I would not rent to families with small kids anyhow. That is my right, as I only rent out three cabins, and there are only the very basic tenants rights in Arkansas. I am a fair landlord, though...and will try to work with my tenants in any way I can. But the bottom line is that I rent those cabins to make money, not to house the homeless. Renters hardly ever treat a rental property as if it were their own homes...and that is very sad. And, is why rents are high in many places. It costs landlords lots of money to have to repair damages to the rental property. |
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fearsgirl
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 01:30:13 AM » |
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I can see things from both sides. I have been a renter and I have been a landlord as well. The fact that you are 23 doesn't mean you can't keep a clean house though. You are a grown women. It is very important to keep things up or they will go down hill fast. One of our renters had a little dog (pets were not allowed in the lease by the way) that pee'd and ruined the hardwood floors. Do you think that the $500.00 deposit covered the replacement of 1,200 square feet of wood flooring? I had to pay thousands of dollars out of my pocket to replace it before I could sell. All you have to do is really put thirty minutes towards cleaning your house up everyday and you will have it done. Please don't take this the wrong way. I enjoy your posts and you seem so sweet but you do have to understand that this is her property and it is a business. Maybe you will win a contest for a years worth of housekeeping services!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed. By the way - those same tenants with the little dog also caught the kitchen on fire! Go figure how much that cost to replace! Never again will I rent to anyone!
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 01:58:38 AM » |
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Don't let anyone tell you that you are not watching your child properly if they make a mess. I am always up my kids butts. When we moved into our new house we had every room freshly painted. My 3 yrs old daughter drew a whole city on her new bedroom walls. I mean skyscrapers, people, etc. (it was actually pretty good for a 3 yr old). I asked her why she did it and she said she was lonely and needed friends. -- I don't know where you are but be happy, a 3 bed house where I am in NJ is at least $1,400 /month.
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 02:04:22 AM » |
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Things like this is why I've always owned my own home. I couldn't put up with landlords. Plus renting to me is like throwing your money down the drain. Why rent when you can easily buy something of your own for what your paying in rent now days. And if your the type that doesn't care to clean often then owning your own home would be the best for you that way you can keep your home the way you want to and not have to answer to anyone about how it looked. As far as your age and cleaning that isn't an excuse not to clean. Right now my health is so bad and I get short of breath doing anything but my house is still clean. It might take me all day to do the basics but it's cleaned before I go to bed. Your young and energetic and should have no problem keeping a clean house. Yes young children are going to make messes that have to be cleaned up but start now making them help you clean up their messes they make. Even my house gets cluttered at times but once you pick up the clutter it's clean under the clutter. Plus it was in the lease so it's not like you don't know she will do walk ins to inspect your home. My BIL had a rental home and it was in the lease that he would do walk in inspections also and each time he had to end up evicting the tenants because they did not keep the home clean. They totally destroyed the house each time he had renters occupy the home. He finally sold the home about 2 months ago because he had totally remodeled the home twice after bad renters. He said it just wasn't worth it anymore to rent and keep having to remodel the home completely. |
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hairbandgirl
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 02:21:56 AM » |
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I am always up my kids butts.
My 3 yrs old daughter drew a whole city on her new bedroom walls. I mean skyscrapers, people, etc.
LOL...Ok, I found that funny and just gotta ask.....Where were you THAT day?? |
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 02:51:20 AM » |
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It is easy for the best parents to have their children get away! I was always slipping away from my Momma! I was the best possum player you have ever seen when I was little. Momma said I would even regulate my breathing ~ she would get up and go into another room and I would get up and make a mess. My biggest messes were always in the bathroom. Once I took toothpaste and decorated all the way around the sink, bathtub and toilet and then put baby powder on top of it (I actually remember this and the spanking I got because of it), and another time I got in there and helped Momma paint. They had been painting the walls a different color and when I got in there I opened the paint can and painted the tile (nope, don't remember that one!). My Mom was an excellent Mom that really watched us, but somehow I still managed to get into some big messes!! Don't beat yourself up over every little thing Tiff, I hate cleaning also! There is also a big difference between a little clutter and grime. Right now though, since you live in her house, unfortunately, it is her rules. I don't think it was fair of her to make you paint the walls until you move out, I think she should have just told you that you would have been responsible for it then!
Sorry you were upset!!
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tharedhead
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2007, 05:28:14 AM » |
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I used to worry about things getting too cold-so I would bring them in the house. Chickens, the goat, once a nice big greensnake... all the dogs...then I would cry my eyes out and worry they were going to freeze to death all night. |
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2007, 06:34:41 AM » |
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Gee, sounds like I would have gone nuts if our last landlord was like your current one. We lived there 6-7 years before buying our current place. The landlord was there maybe 3-4 times TOTAL over all the years. The small problems I just dealt with (like toilet bowl flap). If something required someone to come in to fix, she had me schedule and took $ off rent.
The funny thing is when we moved out they waited 6 months or so and then wanted to keep the security deposit. We had been trying to get for some time as they lost which bank it was it.... After we told them that local law required deposit to be returned in 30 days or tenant could get TRIPLE, we got back. I think it was triple interest not triple deposit, but that part wasn't clear. What they wanted to keep deposit for (paint / carpet) is considered normal wear and tear and not something they can charge for, at least not in MA.
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2007, 10:53:32 AM » |
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tiffandrock
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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2007, 12:42:16 PM » |
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Thanks greenthings. Those are some good links. Today we cleaned the floors, did dishes, and cleaned up my daughters room. Tommorrow were gonna finish. It looks alot better. I cant figure out how to get stuff off the sinks, and bathtub. They are white. But they have wierd stains on them. Like they wont come off when you scrub them. I scrub with Mr clean erasers, comet, lysol. It wouldn't come off.
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tharedhead
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2007, 01:16:50 PM » |
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Is it a kind of a crusty stain? Or a yellow one? Crusty stuff is calcium build up from hard water. Yellow would be iron. There are specialized products for each one. When we moved in to our last apartment it took forever to clean our tub because the guy who had lived there for six months was recently divorced, very depressed and never ever cleaned anything. The landlord gave us a break on the rent because there was so much cleaning that needed doing. We kept having to put stuff on the tub, and put stuff on the tub till eventually it looked like something I'd actually want to stand in to take a shower....
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