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« on: February 27, 2009, 07:14:25 AM »

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/02/27/MN2016651R.DTL

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U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is sending strong signals that President Obama - who as a candidate said states should be allowed to make their own rules on medical marijuana - will end raids on pot dispensaries in California.

Now approve Sativex, will ya...
http://www.drugdevelopment-technology.com/projects/sativex/

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Neuropathic pain, which is frequently chronic, arises when neurones in the brain or peripheral nervous system become hyper-sensitised and generate abnormal or prolonged impulses. There are many causes of neuropathic pain including diabetic neuropathy, post-herpetic neuralgia, fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and cancer. Around 40% of cancer patients suffer some degree of neuropathic pain.

"Companies are on schedule to conduct the first US efficacy trial of Sativex in neuropathic-related cancer pain in 2007."Severe neuropathic pain has proved difficult to treat and evidence suggests that none of the available drugs, mainly opioids, is effective in more than 50% of patients. Thus, it represents an area of significant unmet clinical need. The encouraging data from the Sativex phase III registration trials in multiple sclerosis patients suggest cannabis-derived medicines may have a valuable place in this sector of the pain market
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 07:18:10 AM »

Saw that. I'm sure there will be many who abuse this.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 07:19:50 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 07:20:34 AM »

Saw that. I'm sure there will be many who abuse this.

That is the big plus about Sativex, kills the pain, but does not get you stoned. Has none of the "high" chemicals.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 07:25:10 AM »

good. 

Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 08:25:08 AM »

All,

I have had post herpertic neuralgia since my shingles in May 2003, and now I have pain in my lower back and thighs because I don't have a disc between L-4/L-5, it's bone-on-bone - and opiods DON'T WORK and they all give me nausea, so I don't eat much!!!! So, I am in pain all of the time or nausea all of the time. Take your pick....

If Saltivex would give me some relief without giving me nausea, I am all for it sunny But, I live in Texas, so.....I wouldn't be able to take it, even if my doctor prescibed it for me.

Talk about abuse of patients...

Kate
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 08:57:50 AM »

Kate maybe this will change for you now. I'm also in Texas and chances are they probably won't allow it. I hope you can find some help though. love
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 09:10:06 AM »

good. 

Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 09:13:51 AM »

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Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 

Just wondering that's all. And some people just like a little high.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 09:23:12 AM »

Many people fear research into terminal care and pain control will be discouraged as euthanasia becomes acceptable. Saves money on health care....
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2009, 09:24:27 AM »

good. 

Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 

Just wondering that's all. And some people just like a little high.

I dont think people who need marijuana for medicinal purposes are trying to get high.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2009, 09:29:33 AM »

good. 

Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 

Just wondering that's all. And some people just like a little high.

I dont think people who need marijuana for medicinal purposes are trying to get high.

Well my brother did. Sure the idea behind it is that it helped the nausea but he smoked before and he smoked after. Maybe some won't but I'm sure this will be abused if there is a way. People lie to get food stamps I bet they could find a way to say they need a perscription to smoke a joint.

Even if it were made legal to smoke it I wouldn't.
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 09:38:48 AM »

Did you know there are people who abuse Tagamet? Apparently acts as a "downer"... also causes cognitive impairment

http://uk.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUKPAR66767520070806

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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Taking certain types of medication to deal with heartburn and excess stomach acid may increase the risk of cognitive impairment in the elderly, according to a new report.


Sorry, too much trivia! laughing
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 09:47:50 AM »

Heck people can abuse anything if they want to.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 09:50:16 AM »

Heck people can abuse anything if they want to.

Except maybe skunk spray...laughing
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2009, 09:52:56 AM »

Heck people can abuse anything if they want to.

Except maybe skunk spray...laughing

 laughing I'm sure someone will bottle it and sniff it.  laughing That poor dog will need a whole lot of baths.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 09:55:10 AM »

good. 

DITTO!!! headbang
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2009, 09:56:57 AM »

All,

I have had post herpertic neuralgia since my shingles in May 2003, and now I have pain in my lower back and thighs because I don't have a disc between L-4/L-5, it's bone-on-bone - and opiods DON'T WORK and they all give me nausea, so I don't eat much!!!! So, I am in pain all of the time or nausea all of the time. Take your pick....

If Saltivex would give me some relief without giving me nausea, I am all for it sunny But, I live in Texas, so.....I wouldn't be able to take it, even if my doctor prescibed it for me.

Talk about abuse of patients...

Kate

My long lost twin - shingles are horrible!!!  nono cry
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2009, 10:04:24 AM »

good. 

Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 

Just wondering that's all. And some people just like a little high.

This seems like a personal attack...let's not go there!  We all know that 'that' is not what she meant, and we are adults here...keep it that way!
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2009, 10:09:12 AM »

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Are you trying to tell us something here  crazy tongue

yes I am. People shouldn't have to suffer when there is something that will help them. 

Just wondering that's all. And some people just like a little high.

This seems like a personal attack...let's not go there!  We all know that 'that' is not what she meant, and we are adults here...keep it that way!

No this is absolutely not a personal attack and I'm sorry you misread it. There would be no reason for me to attack anyone.
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2009, 10:17:57 AM »

Now on a personal note to all of you who are suffering I do hope you find the relief you need.  love
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2009, 10:33:31 AM »

More on Sativex

http://scamparoo.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/sativex-fact-sheet-from-health-canada/

Most folks I've talked to who were in the clinical trial did not get any "high" or "drunk"-they just got pain relief Smile
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2009, 10:40:58 AM »

I wouldn't smoke a joint because it's known to increase the appetite - like I need that! I'm more interested in Obama's plan to end the war, while I sit here watching a story about poor soldiers who came home without limbs. If there's any cosmic justice, I hope those who got us here through lies and hubris get their rightful punishment for what they did to the country.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2009, 11:01:31 AM »

I'm just sorry we are taking them from one war and putting them right in another one.
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2009, 12:02:35 PM »

I'm more interested in Obama's plan to end the war, while I sit here watching a story about poor soldiers who came home without limbs.

Phantom limb pain is incredibly hard to treat
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/en/pain/microsite/medicine2.html

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If phantom limb sensations are normal then so too, alas, is phantom limb pain. This occurs in a majority of those who lose their limbs. (1) In fact, limbs do not need to be lost; it also occurs in conditions in which the brain is disconnected from the body, such as peripheral nerve injuries and after spinal cord injury, when an area becomes insentient (and usually paralysed).

The pain is described in various ways: burning, aching, 'as if the hand is being crushed in a vice,' etc. Such words, however, cannot fully encompass the experience of living with such a pain. In those with chronic pain after spinal cord injury it is frequently the pain rather than the paralysis that interferes with work and social life. One woman has said that paralysis does not stop life, but pain may. (2)

Mechanisms
There may be many mechanisms underlying phantom limb pain. Damage to nerve endings is often important: subsequent erroneous regrowth can lead to abnormal and painful discharge of neurons in the stump, and may change the way that nerves from the amputated limb connect to neurons within the spinal cord. There is also evidence for altered nervous activity within the brain as a result of the loss of sensory input from the amputated limb.

Unfortunately, phantom limb pain is generable intractable and chronic; once it develops it persists and is rarely improved by present medical treatments. Destructive surgical procedures are also of limited use. They can be effective for a few months, but pain always returns, frequently worse, and so surgery is only performed in patients with terminal illness.

http://www.ampainsoc.org/pub/bulletin/win06/inno1.htm

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Of growing concern to the VHA is the care of service members returning from deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan. In response to this growing need, a multidisciplinary expert panel has been organized to develop policy, guidance, and a comprehensive approach to address the pain care needs of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) service members. Particularly important are issues related to the seamless transition of pain care from military treatment facilities to VHA facilities, including four specialized VHA treatment facilities that have been established for veterans who have suffered traumatic injuries including blast injuries with head trauma and catastrophic injuries to the extremities. The existing infrastructure of the National Pain Management Strategy is being activated to specifically facilitate these transitions and to ensure that the necessary pain management resources are available to address the complex and serious array of problems experienced by these veterans
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