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« on: February 23, 2009, 02:28:59 PM » |
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I am proud to announce that Obama's economic stimulus plan is alive and well here in Wasington State!!! In fact Mr. Obama was busy stroking Washington Governor Christine Gregoire as one his leaders in the economic recovery(?), during a speech he made today in DC. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29311565>1=43001OLYMPIA, Wash. – The state is sending out hundreds of thousands of $1 checks to the state’s neediest residents ... Sending out $1 checks cost the state $250,000. DSHS says that could bring the state and additional $43 million in federal funding. Yep ... Democratic 'pork' at its best! Every state government is standing in line with their greedy, sweaty, fat palms grasping out for a slab of that greasy BBQ'ed 'pork'! Did you ever wonder who is gonna pay for all this ponderous porcine* plentitude??? YOU! Oink, oink, oink, squeal!I think I will take my dollar and " stimulate" myself down at the McDonald's dollar menu! I much prefer beef to 'pork'! Luvs, Loren   * porcine adjective 1. relating to or suggesting swine; "comparison between human and porcine pleasures" 2. repellently fat; "a bald porcine old man" [syn: gross] 3. resembling swine; coarsely gluttonous or greedy; "piggish table manners"; "the piggy fat-cheeked little boy and his porcine pot-bellied father"; "swinish slavering over food" [syn: hoggish] WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University. |
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tharedhead
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 03:04:10 PM » |
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Does Washington state not have the red white and blue debit style cards  |
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 03:41:14 PM » |
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 isn't that passing the buck!
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cinphi
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 11:30:54 PM » |
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oink oink. There was a radio program on the other day and a woman who worked for SS was talking about the scams happening to get those food stamps.
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cinphi
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 12:12:30 AM » |
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Catching Wild Pigs...
There was a professor in a large college that had some exchange
students in the class.
One day, while the class was in the lab, the Prof. noticed one of the
exchange
students who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt.
The
professor asked the young man what the matter was.
The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been
shot
while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to
overthrow his
country's government and install a communist government.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a
strange
question. He asked, 'Do you know how to catch wild pigs?'
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.
The young man said this was no joke. 'You catch wild pigs by finding a
suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs
find it
and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to
coming
every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are
used to
coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn
again and
you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start
to eat
again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with
a gate
in the last side. The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to
come
through the gate to eat, then you slam the gate on them and catch the
whole
herd.
'Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and
around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to
eating the
free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to
forage in the
woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.'
The young man then told the professor that was exactly what he seeing
happening
in America
'The government keeps pushing the people toward socialism and keeps
spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental
income,
tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies,
payments not
to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine , drugs, etc, etc, etc. while
the people
continue to lose their freedom - just a little at a time. One should
always
remember: There is no such thing as a free Lunch ! Also, a politician
will
never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.'
So, if you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a
problem confronting the future of democracy in America , you might want
to send
this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to
your way of
life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the
gates
slam shut! Listen closely to what the politicians are promising you -
just
maybe you will be able to tell who is about to slam the gate on America
"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is big enough to take away everything you have."
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lidarkside
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 12:21:30 AM » |
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I think I will take my dollar and "stimulate" myself down at the McDonald's dollar menu! I much prefer beef to 'pork'!
...and what are you going to use to pay the tax on that?! |
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tharedhead
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 07:47:53 AM » |
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One of my pet peeves is the subsidy on beet sugar. The high price of sugar in the US is the reason candy makers are moving to South America and Canada. And my Bees refuse to eat beet sugar, which I find odd and a bit disquieting since I sometimes feel like insects are smarter than we are. I have to be very careful to buy only pure cane sugar for my little guys. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 07:55:09 AM » |
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What's really shameful and disgusting is how they throw all kinds of surplus into warehouses to rot with all these homeless and starving people we have living on the streets.
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3mnkids1
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 08:05:15 AM » |
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One of my pet peeves is the subsidy on beet sugar. The high price of sugar in the US is the reason candy makers are moving to South America and Canada. And my Bees refuse to eat beet sugar, which I find odd and a bit disquieting since I sometimes feel like insects are smarter than we are. I have to be very careful to buy only pure cane sugar for my little guys. ever been around a sugar mill? omg! the stench is awful. I just love when they burn the cane fields.. ash everywhere.  Im telling ya it smells like rotten eggs. its disgusting. And as a added bonus when they burn the cane fields you get to see all kinds of critters run out burned.  |
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cinphi
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 08:06:59 AM » |
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Lots of cane fields here in Louisiana. Love to chew on sugar cane. That was our treat growing up.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 08:14:03 AM » |
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Lots of cane fields here in Louisiana. Love to chew on sugar cane. That was our treat growing up.
it does taste good. |
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tharedhead
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 08:20:35 AM » |
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We used to make sorghum molasses (had a mill, boiled it down) and it smelled great! And no critters were cooked in its making. There are many alternative sweeteners that could be developed if sugar was not so heavily subsidized. Here is some more on beet vs. cane. Sugar Beet Subsidies in United States totaled $242 million from 1995-2006 and the stuff is awful in cooking, too! http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/03/31/FD91867.DTLIt's true that both kinds are sucrose, but only 99.95 percent, and that minuscule 0.05 percent -- made up of trace differences in minerals and proteins -- can have an effect.
Much of the 0.05 percent difference comes from the fact that cane and beets are two different plants altogether. Beets are a root, growing below ground; cane is a grass, waving in the breeze. ``That alone can account for mineral profile and content differences,'' says Charles Baker, vice president for scientific affairs for The Sugar Association, a nonprofit group focusing on sugar's role in diet and health. Other variations are the result of processing.
The beet versus cane controversy is a new development. Cane was once the dominant sugar in U.S. markets, but within the last few years beet has taken the lead. Beet now accounts for 55 percent of the 10 million tons of refined sugar consumed in the country each year. And, according to Ben Goodwin, executive manager of California Beet Growers Association, the percentage is expected to grow.
One reason is that beet sugar is generally cheaper to produce. It requires just one refining process at a single plant. Traditional cane refining demands two processes at two different facilities.
Beets can also thrive in a wider range of climates. This large, homely root -- not anything like a regular beet -- is cultivated in 12 states; cane grows in just four. And while total U.S. cane and beet acreage has declined dramatically over the last few years, cane has dropped most precipitously. Hawaii alone has lost more than 60 percent of its cane fields over the last five years -- victims of urbanization and conversion to better-paying crops like macadamia nuts and coffee, says Roehl Flores , director of marketing for C & H Cane Sugar Co.
Many in the industry continue to dispute the signifigance of the shift from cane to beet.
``I can't tell any difference, and I don't think anyone else can,'' says Joseph Terrell, director of public affairs for the American Sugar Alliance, a trade association. ``The difference is where it is grown and some of the processing, but once it becomes sugar, there's no difference.''
But others see disaster looming on the horizon. Marion Cunningham, The Chronicle's ``Home Cooking'' columnist and author of the ``Fannie Farmer Cookbook,'' says the shift from beet to cane endangers some traditional American recipes. The burned critters part....ending the subsidies could cut down on that, too! http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8381High sugar prices harm manufacturers of candies, chocolates and breakfast cereal. A 2006 study by the Commerce Department found that for each sugar industry job saved by the sugar program, nearly three food manufacturing jobs are lost. The study found that:
Employment in food companies that use substantial amounts of sugar is declining. Imports of food products that contain sugar are growing because it is not competitive to make those products in the U.S.
Numerous companies have relocated to Canada and Mexico, where sugar prices are much lower.
Chicago, once the nation's candy manufacturing capital, has lost thousands of jobs. In 2004, candy maker Fannie May closed its Chicago factory and Brach's moved its Chicago candy production to Mexico.
Michigan took a hit in 2002, when Kraft moved its 600–worker LifeSavers factory to Canada in search of low–cost sugar.
Hershey Foods closed plants in Pennsylvania, Colorado and California and relocated them to Canada as well.
The sugar program also causes environmental damage. Large areas of the Florida Everglades have been converted to cane sugar production as a result of sugar protection. That has caused damage from the related land drainage, runoff of chemical fertilizers, and the destruction of natural habitat.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 08:28:23 AM » |
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What the United States needs to stop doing is promising to buy all these products from other countries when we can use our own produced products.
Now, THAT would help stimulate the economy.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 05:17:26 PM » |
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Does Washington state not have the red white and blue debit style cards Oh, you must be talking about the Bank debit cards where they charge more to use the card than the government puts on it.  Shame on them. The banks are the reason for this whole mess. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 12:03:39 AM » |
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My sister once had a rebate of $1.32 from the state taxes. She donated $1 to one of teh charaties listed and made them send her a check for 32 cents. It cost the state something like $29 to do each person's taxes (this was before computers). YOu KNOW someone got ticked when they saw that |
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loren brothers
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2009, 04:04:22 AM » |
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Does Washington state not have the red white and blue debit style cards Oh, you must be talking about the Bank debit cards where they charge more to use the card than the government puts on it. Shame on them. The banks are the reason for this whole mess. she is referring to the food stamp cards ... here in Washington state they are blue with a picture of George on a background of the state. they didn't put the $1 on the cards because it has to be a cash disbursement. The latest thing, starting today is that they separated the senior/disabled fare for the ferry system into two individual tickets for the same reason ... so that they can get additional federal money for "disabled" programs... The governer has been busy here! |
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