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« on: March 01, 2009, 11:55:17 PM »

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OLYMPIA, Wash. – Terminally ill patients with less than six months to live will soon be able to ask their doctors to prescribe them lethal medication in Washington state.

But even though the "Death with Dignity" law takes effect Thursday, people who might seek the life-ending prescriptions could find their doctors conflicted or not willing to write them.

Many doctors are hesitant to talk publicly about where they stand on the issue, said Dr. Tom Preston, a retired cardiologist and board member of Compassion & Choices, the group that campaigned for and supports the law.

"There are a lot of doctors, who in principle, would approve or don't mind this, but for a lot of social or professional reasons, they don't want to be involved," he said.

But Preston said discussions about end-of-life issues between doctor and patient will increase because of the new law, and he thinks that as time goes on more and more doctors who don't have a religious or philosophical opposition will be open to participating.

"It will be a cultural shift," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090301/ap_on_re_us/assisted_suicide

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 12:10:48 AM »

Obviously, as a Christian, this is unacceptable and not even a choice.

What's next?  Start televising them as they did in England.

Then, a "Logan's Run" society where they blow you up at the age of 30 and condition people to believe that they are just being reborn? error

It just keeps getting worse and worse.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 12:13:25 AM »


It just keeps getting worse and worse.

Yes it is getting worse. But the one thing that makes a difference is that as a Christian we have hope. Real hope in our Lord's return. So no reason to fear.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 06:33:01 AM »

Finally!!!  Government removing itself from people's lives!   cheers
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 11:18:19 AM »

One of the primary concerns in the chronic pain community is that the availability of euthanasia will reduce the focus on pain control, and limit or eliminate the support needed to provide a good end stage quality of life. This is a very great concern for me, personally. Many people choose euthanasia to escape from intractable pain. I find it sad that DEA restrictions can prevent or discourage doctors from providing the medications a person need to stay alive with an acceptable quality of life. Also procedures such as tumor debulking for patient comfort may be discouraged since they provide no curative benefit.

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In large part it is fear: fear of cancer and other debilitating diseases; fear of becoming a burden to one's family; fear of surviving without really living; and, perhaps most of all, fear of severe, uncontrolled pain. The voters in Washington and the people polled by Gallup were saying the same thing. They want a law that gives them the right to choose to die rather than having to live a life destroyed by pain or other circumstances beyond their control.

It is entirely understandable that many people feel this way. Before such laws are adopted, however, there should be a careful examination of what is being done to address at least one major contributor to patients' fears: pain. In 1990, a World Health Organization (WHO) Expert Committee found that the greatest improvements in quality of life for cancer patients and their families would result from implementation of existing knowledge about pain and symptom management. The committee concluded that "...with the development of modern methods of palliative care, legalization of euthanasia is unnecessary. Now that a practical alternative to death in pain exists, there should be concentrated efforts to implement programs of palliative care, rather than yielding to pressure for legal euthanasia" (WHO, 1990). The WHO Expert Committee recommended that governments, including that of the United States, devote specific attention to cancer pain relief and palliative care before considering laws allowing euthanasia.

I do see a growing inequity here..you can't get pain control, but you can kill yourself. This inequity needs to be addressed.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 06:31:29 AM »

I agree with Wolfie!  Finally, compassion and common sense prevail in Washington state.  I wish all states had a "Death with Dignity" law in place to help terminally ill people...at least offer them a choice in ending their constant pain.

I figured the religious nutjobs would come pouring out of the woodworks over this issue.   Booty
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2009, 06:37:31 AM »

I agree with Wolfie!  Finally, compassion and common sense prevail in Washington state.  I wish all states had a "Death with Dignity" law in place to help terminally ill people...at least offer them a choice in ending their constant pain.

I figured the religious nutjobs would come pouring out of the woodworks over this issue.   Booty

I'm religious but I wouldn't call myself a nutjob and I don't see me pouring out of any woodwork. I do however have an opinion though. Hope that's OK.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 10:05:23 AM »

...at least offer them a choice in ending their constant pain.

I just don't want death to be their only choice. I want them to have pain relief, without the DEA keeping end stage patients from medications that can make their last days weeks or months bearable. No one should be in constant pain. Please feel free to PM or call me if you want to continue the discussion at annoying length. I can get pretty detailed and support even some of Timothy Leary's theories on easing the pain of death. sunny
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