Now tell me kids aren't growing up quicker these days...

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Two sixth graders in a middle school near Indianapolis were caught having sex in class last November.

Associate Superintendent Jeff Swensson says the children had sex during shop class at Raymond Park Middle School in Warren Township. The teacher didn't know what was going on because another student acted as a "look-out".

School officials say the incident is under investigation, and that the students involved were recommended for expulsion.

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Oh my gosh...this just amazes me. Yes, I knew it happened, but I still could sorta deny it. My daughter will be in 6th grade next year. I look at her and just want to cry knowing what she is going to be exposed to!

If one of us wouldn't end up dead, I would home school her!
 
Like you, I know it must happen and quite often but it never ceases to shock me. I can't imagine or grasp children this age wanting to have sex. And to have a look-out? You'd think they at least would be too shy to do this in school!
 
That is scary. My daughter is in 6th grade but im not worried. First boy who tries to touch her she will punch in the face. :laughing:

Kids are definitely growing up alot faster.
 
They're not growing up quicker. They're just being presented with information in public schools these days that they are not mature enough to handle or understand. Their curiosity becomes peaked, and they have to find out about it for themselves. Hands on, so to speak!

Mentally, children are more immature now than when I was a kid.
 
I have to disagree with you LIDARKSIDE...I am 38 years old and had health class in grade school and was presented with basically the same information and I was not out having sex as a 6th grader...kids are starting younger because they are developing faster..my daughter starting developing at 9 years old and had her period at 10...3 years earlier than me... they are dealing with emotions and feelings that we never had to deal with when we where young....peer pressure is to the extreme nowadays...my daughter is 13 and already being pressured by boys about doing things with them....I feel like locking her in the house until she is 18... I wish there was an all girls school somewhere close to where I lived because her butt would be in there so fast her head would be swimming! I thnk god that kids are being taught things in school and informing them in a more clinical kind of way that I can...some kids probably wouldnt get any information if it wasnt through the schools....not everyone talks to their children about this kind of stuff...I can certainly tell you that I would defintely hate being a teenager nowadays...way to much pressure!
 
I'm 45. We didn't have sex or drug ed. In my four years of high school, one girl was pregnant and one boy got killed drunken driving. Since the introduction of said courses, sexual activity and drug use have increased and children are having sex at a much earlier. My stats come from having been involved in public education issues for seven years. I had also discussed these and other issues on radio and at a teachers' in-service.
 
With all due respect, LIDARKSIDE, I think they are more likely seeing it on TV, in their own homes, hearing it from their friends, playing certain inappropriate video games, etc. I can't help but think a lot of parents are dropping the ball when it comes to consistent, thorough parenting.

I can't help but think that most kids nowadays are more mature than they were when I was growing up because of said exposure. At 11-12, my friends and I were playing ball, playing hopscotch, playing barbies, chewing bubble gum, collecting Garbage Pail Kids, and begging our moms for jelly shoes. Today, I see(or read or hear about) kids these ages smoking, cursing, stealing, drinking, etc. and of course having sex. Maybe they were doing it back then too and it just wasn't as prevalent or in-your-face.

All I know is that we as parents have a certain responsibility to not only our children but other people's children. It is every parent's duty to ensure their child does not victimize someone else's child. If more parents were not so lazy and actually parented their children we may not see as much as the crap posted.
 
LIDARKSIDE said:
I'm 45. We didn't have sex or drug ed. In my four years of high school, one girl was pregnant and one boy got killed drunken driving. Since the introduction of said courses, sexual activity and drug use have increased and children are having sex at a much earlier. My stats come from having been involved in public education issues for seven years. I had also discussed these and other issues on radio and at a teachers' in-service.
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Are you actually saying sex ed and in-school drug education are the reasons some kids are doing these things? And if we didn't have either in school kids would be more responsible? Not get pregnant? Not do drugs?
 
Hell, I think they should hand out condoms in high school. You can not preach abstinence. It doesn't work for the most part. And I agree that kids are more mature than when we were that age. I have a 12 yr old daughter and she talks, and thinks about things I never would have at that age. Granted alot of it is how I raised her but its also her friends, tv, games etc... not sex education.
 
3mnkids1 said:
Hell, I think they should hand out condoms in high school. You can not preach abstinence. It doesn't work for the most part. And I agree that kids are more mature than when we were that age. I have a 12 yr old daughter and she talks, and thinks about things I never would have at that age. Granted alot of it is how I raised her but its also her friends, tv, games etc... not sex education.
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Here Here!!!

I like how some schools do it...they put the condoms in a bowl and place the bowl in a place where kids have access to them. They aren't handing them out but they ARE making them available!! That should be enough to satisfy the parents who like to say schools are handing them out, promoting their kids go have sex.


What is SO wrong with schools caring enough to NOT want kids having unprotected sex? What is SO wrong with schools wanting to educate our children about drugs? They wouldn't have to if more parents did their job.

And Trace, if I had girls you can best believe they'd know everything about everything!! When I was in middle school I didn't have boys coming up to me wanting me to have sex with them. Neither did my friends. Boys didn't do that then, and if they did it was SO very rare.

My oldest is 11 and in the 6th grade. He knows how babies are made, he knows about sex and how everything works, and he knows about every drug that I've ever heard about or tried(which haven't been but a few, peeps LOL). He is not permitted to watch movies that contain nudity or sex, he's not permitted to play violent or nudity-oriented video games, and he's not permitted to be disrespectful. I will be riding his ass(as well as his brother's in due time) until he is 18 years of age...and most likely long after that. We are his parents and that is our job.
 
I am sorry but girls were getting pregnant long before they started sex ed in school...the only thing is that people didnt see it because they were forced to quit school and go live in special homes for unwed teenage mothers and were ostrasized by the community that they lived in.. when I was in school I knew about 10 girls that got pregnant and had babies in high school....thankfully they all remained in school and got their education....I believe they should be letting condoms be available for high school students...it is dangerous times now and we should be teaching them responsiblity and unfortunately many parents DO NOT talk to their children...my parents never talked to me about sex or drugs but I managed to make smart decisions on my own...but of course we didnt have the pressures to be older like kids do these days...I am constantly talking to my daughter about sex and drugs whether she follows my advice is up to her I guess but it doesnt stop me from enforcing it....and I think drug education is the best thing they ever started...my daughter thinks alcohol and drugs are disgusting and gets mad at me for drinking...and this all because of the drug education in our schools... I remember being taught drug education in school and it scared the holy crap out of me...to this day I havent done drugs and they have been readily available to me through friends and family! They should have classes on teaching kids the importance of self respect and respecting others....I try and teach my daughter but most of the time she doesnt listen to me...she would probably listen to another adult better than she would listen to me!
 
Well...I graduated in 1988 when I was in 9th grade we had 3 girls drop out of school due to pregnancy. This isn't your big high school either...our freshman class had 35 kids in it. We were the big class ~lol! Our 12th, 11th, and 10th had less than 30 kids each in there! Yes, kids were having sex...and no we didn't have sex education.

My kids are sheltered...they don't watch stuff that I don't deem okay and I am picky! I had a fit when the girls went over to a friend's house and got to watch a horror movie...I'm sorry, but you don't let someone else's kids watch something like that without asking!!

Ashelyn doesn't know about sex yet...she can't even handle the body changing discussions yet, so it will be awhile! I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and say that because she doesn't know doesn't mean she doesn't have the chance to know. One of the Mom's that have a kid in 5th grade also mentioned that one of the girl's in Ashelyn's class thought she was pregnant ~ this girl is alot more mature, but still it almost kills me to think about it. Ashelyn is still playing Littlest Pet Shop!
 
The things children are learning today is mind boggling. I do agree that they are growing up quicker for some things but, they are taught the others! So sad.
 
My neice's grandmother got married when she was 9. This was in South Carolina. Marriage at 12 or 15 (my Grandmother was 15 and my Grandfather was 27) used to be the norm back in the day....funny story about Mrs. Stubbs-her boyfriend James (age 16) broke her out of a home for the feeble minded to marry her! He had to climb a ladder and saw bars, then they hitch hiked home and he married her before they could commit her again. Those were the days... :)

edited to add-somebody hated this post enough to quote it in full over at prohate.com. I dunno if I should feel special or scared :laughing:
 
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