Question re Changing Your Mind After Accepting a Win

bayside99

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Hello everyone,

I'm sort of new here...this is my first post. I've been enjoying the site features for a few months. I'm wondering what to do about a trip to a tropical island that I won. I accepted the prize, signed the Affy, and was told that I could take the trip anytime this year. What could be better, right?

Problem is, my finances have since gone south. I can't really afford the trip now, and I don't foresee any financial improvement this year. The trip would require paying for my own cross-country airfare and meals for a week. To make matters worse, I've already invited a friend to go with me, and she accepted my invitation.

Is it too late to decline the prize? What if I never take the trip? Will I still get a 1099 at year end?

Thanks in advance for your advice!
 
:sunny: Congratulations on a wonderful win! I would not hesitate to talk to your friend to see if she can help pay, expecially if they are getting part of it free because of your win. If she is indeed a good friend and she will either help out or be disappointed for both of you. Airfares are pretty reasonable right now. Depending on where you are going, there are lots of members here that can give you recommendations on cheap meals. They can also help in finding cheap flights. If you don't use it then you won't pay taxes on it.
 
Thanks, pmeek, that's good advice. I just need to get up the nerve to have a conversation with my friend. Hopefully, we'll be able to work something out.
 
I won plane tickets that turned out to be totally useless. Still had to pay taxes on the so-called $700 value. I'll never make this mistake again. Maybe you could call the company that gave you the prize and see what they can do for you. Best wishes!
 
You won't owe taxes on the trip if nothing has been paid for by the sponsor in your name. Same goes for airline vouchers that you turn in for tickets. Vouchers have no value. If you don't use them, you don't owe taxes on them; because they were never turned in for anything of monetary value that the sponsor had to pay for.

Let the sponsor know a.s.a.p. that you can no longer afford to take the trip. More than likely, they will award it to an alternate.
 
I'm not understanding. Did the prize not include airfare to the island or are you saying that perhaps the airfare is included but not from an airport near you, so you have to provide your own airfare to that airport?
If your prize was in the form of "vouchers", and you have received those vouchers, then yes, you will be liable for the taxes, even if you do not use them. The key here is that the vouchers are the prize and they have been issued to you.
If you have not received vouchers, then, yes, I would call immediately to see if they will re-award the prize to someone else, and remove you from the tax liablity for them.
If you have the vouchers in your possession, then check to see if they are transferrable. If no indication indicating otherwise, you may be able to re-coup the tax liablity by selling them.
Good luck!
 
I'm not understanding. Did the prize not include airfare to the island or are you saying that perhaps the airfare is included but not from an airport near you, so you have to provide your own airfare to that airport?
If your prize was in the form of "vouchers", and you have received those vouchers, then yes, you will be liable for the taxes, even if you do not use them. The key here is that the vouchers are the prize and they have been issued to you.
If you have not received vouchers, then, yes, I would call immediately to see if they will re-award the prize to someone else, and remove you from the tax liablity for them.
If you have the vouchers in your possession, then check to see if they are transferrable. If no indication indicating otherwise, you may be able to re-coup the tax liablity by selling them.
Good luck!

You don't pay taxes on something that you did not receive and did not use. Vouchers do not any monetary value. It usually says such right on the voucher. Once vouchers are turned in for airline tickets, hotel rooms, etc., which is the actual prize not the vouchers, the winner is liable for the taxes on the actual costs of those actual items. Only when a voucher is used is the sponsor then paying for those items, and ARV's posted with a prize are just approximations not the actual costs.

This can be very easily checked with the IRS as long as the person is describing to them "vouchers" so as not to confuse them for paid for tickets if that is what they are actually holding.

Two of our seven trips involved vouchers, and we were only liable for taxes on the actual costs of the airline tickets and hotel rooms they were exchanged for. We had one unused airline voucher left which we did not owe taxes on since it was never turned in for anything of value. We documented all the airline tickets and hotel costs.

Anyone who pays taxes on a voucher, piece of paper, is paying taxes on something that isn't worth anything and of which no monies were spent on by the sponsor.

You should always check with the IRS if in question which is what I have done in the past.
 
I'm not understanding. Did the prize not include airfare to the island or are you saying that perhaps the airfare is included but not from an airport near you, so you have to provide your own airfare to that airport?

Hello! Airfare from the east coast was included, but I live on the west coast. I didn't receive any vouchers; I just got an island information packet with instructions to make reservations at least three months in advance of my trip.
 
Two of our seven trips involved vouchers, and we were only liable for taxes on the actual costs of the airline tickets and hotel rooms they were exchanged for. We had one unused airline voucher left which we did not owe taxes on since it was never turned in for anything of value. We documented all the airline tickets and hotel costs.

This is really good to know. I've often wondered about trips for four or more people, and what happens if you don't have enough people to go with you.
 
This is really good to know. I've often wondered about trips for four or more people, and what happens if you don't have enough people to go with you.

That's why the rules state that it's an ARV (approximate retail value). Usually, the sponsor automatically adjusts the 1099 down after they actually pay for a whole trip. For those that don't, you can request they do so to reflect the actual costs. We had to do that twice without any problems.

The IRS' site has all the specifics for reporting the FMV (fair market value) of a prize.

Unfortunately, I think there are a lot of people paying more taxes on prizes than they realistically need to.
 
If you receive your prize in the form of vouchers, then the prize has been fulfilled by the sponsor. The vouchers did not just come out of thin air. Somebody or some company paid for those vouchers, whether in the form of a "donation" by an airline or hotel (in which case they will likely write-off the value when they file their taxes, in order to get the benefit of their marketing expenses) or actually purchased by the sponsor (in which case they will want the benefit of writing off the marketing expense, as well).
I agree that checking with one's own personal tax advisor would be the best advice. If you call the IRS, even on seperate occasions, you will almost be guaranteed to not talk to the same person each time and will be given different advice, depending on who you talk to at that moment.
I've won 7 trips, 3 of them awarded in the form of vouchers. The taxes were due on them as the sponsor fulfilled the prize to me for me to use. Even if I had not used those vouchers, the prize was still fulfilled to me, and was in my possession. If I chose not to use them, that doesn't excuse my tax obligations. The sponsor awarded them in good faith to me.
I have, at this moment, 4 Airtran vouchers in my possession. No where on them do they state that they have no monetary value, nor have I seen that disclosure on previous vouchers from AA or NWA. If they have no monetary value, why do so many vouchers appear for sale on eBay and people actually "buy" them? If there was no value in them, why would sponsors use them at all? It's kinda like a dollar bill...yes, it's just a piece of paper (like a voucher), but it cost somebody or some entity something to print it.
For all of my trips, I have gathered my own documentation as to the actual costs involved and that amount is what I use for tax purposes. Some instances, I was able to convince the sponsor to adjust the 1099, some times not. I have not had a problem in reporting my actual costs. This is representative of my own personal situation/experience.
To the OP, I highly suggest you consult your own tax advisor/consultant, who would be willing to represent you in the event any info given here or anyplace else is not correct for your own personal situation.
You don't pay taxes on something that you did not receive and did not use. Vouchers do not any monetary value. It usually says such right on the voucher. Once vouchers are turned in for airline tickets, hotel rooms, etc., which is the actual prize not the vouchers, the winner is liable for the taxes on the actual costs of those actual items. Only when a voucher is used is the sponsor then paying for those items, and ARV's posted with a prize are just approximations not the actual costs.

This can be very easily checked with the IRS as long as the person is describing to them "vouchers" so as not to confuse them for paid for tickets if that is what they are actually holding.

Two of our seven trips involved vouchers, and we were only liable for taxes on the actual costs of the airline tickets and hotel rooms they were exchanged for. We had one unused airline voucher left which we did not owe taxes on since it was never turned in for anything of value. We documented all the airline tickets and hotel costs.

Anyone who pays taxes on a voucher, piece of paper, is paying taxes on something that isn't worth anything and of which no monies were spent on by the sponsor.

You should always check with the IRS if in question which is what I have done in the past.
 
I'm not understanding. Did the prize not include airfare to the island or are you saying that perhaps the airfare is included but not from an airport near you, so you have to provide your own airfare to that airport?

Hello! Airfare from the east coast was included, but I live on the west coast. I didn't receive any vouchers; I just got an island information packet with instructions to make reservations at least three months in advance of my trip.
I think you should try contacting the sponsor and telling them your situation. It may be that they will allow you to return the packet to them and they will nullify your win, therefore relieving you of any tax burden. I wouldn't think it would hurt to at least try that route.
 
If you receive your prize in the form of vouchers, then the prize has been fulfilled by the sponsor. The vouchers did not just come out of thin air. Somebody or some company paid for those vouchers, whether in the form of a "donation" by an airline or hotel (in which case they will likely write-off the value when they file their taxes, in order to get the benefit of their marketing expenses) or actually purchased by the sponsor (in which case they will want the benefit of writing off the marketing expense, as well).
I agree that checking with one's own personal tax advisor would be the best advice. If you call the IRS, even on seperate occasions, you will almost be guaranteed to not talk to the same person each time and will be given different advice, depending on who you talk to at that moment.
I've won 7 trips, 3 of them awarded in the form of vouchers. The taxes were due on them as the sponsor fulfilled the prize to me for me to use. Even if I had not used those vouchers, the prize was still fulfilled to me, and was in my possession. If I chose not to use them, that doesn't excuse my tax obligations. The sponsor awarded them in good faith to me.
I have, at this moment, 4 Airtran vouchers in my possession. No where on them do they state that they have no monetary value, nor have I seen that disclosure on previous vouchers from AA or NWA. If they have no monetary value, why do so many vouchers appear for sale on eBay and people actually "buy" them? If there was no value in them, why would sponsors use them at all? It's kinda like a dollar bill...yes, it's just a piece of paper (like a voucher), but it cost somebody or some entity something to print it.
For all of my trips, I have gathered my own documentation as to the actual costs involved and that amount is what I use for tax purposes. Some instances, I was able to convince the sponsor to adjust the 1099, some times not. I have not had a problem in reporting my actual costs. This is representative of my own personal situation/experience.
To the OP, I highly suggest you consult your own tax advisor/consultant, who would be willing to represent you in the event any info given here or anyplace else is not correct for your own personal situation.
If that's what you want to believe and pay taxes on worthless pieces of paper that's your decision. I have already checked this with the IRS.

The prize is airline tickets not the vouchers. The vouchers are like a promissory note to use to fulfill the prize. If you don't use the vouchers, the prize is not fulfulled; and, therefore, no prize was ever purchased, paid for, or received. Once the vouchers are exchanged for the tickets, the sponsors pays the cost of the tickets per the voucher number.

Paying taxes on unused vouchers would be like paying taxes on money you never received for doing work for someone for an agreed amount and then they decided to refuse you payment. No one in their right mind would pay taxes on money they never received.

Plus, how could you pay taxes on vouchers without knowing what the airline tickets themselves would cost. The ARV is in no way a reflection of the actual cost(s). As I said above, ARV's are just approximations. On trips, they're usually greatly over-inflated. Why would you pay taxes on an approximation.

The sponsor does not pay for anything up front not even vouchers. These are not like consumer gift cards. On trips, all costs are paid at the time the prize(s) is used/fulfilled. Everything included in the prize is worked out beforehand with the other companies/suppliers and paid afterwards, at the time the prize is actually being used/fulfilled.

If that weren't true, then the rules would reflect the actual costs instead of an approximation which would be impossible to do; and if that weren't true, the sponsor would never readjust the amount on the 1099's. All our trips ended up costing less than half of the stated ARV, and most sponsors readjusted it accordingly on their own.
 
You won't owe taxes on the trip if nothing has been paid for by the sponsor in your name. Same goes for airline vouchers that you turn in for tickets. Vouchers have no value. If you don't use them, you don't owe taxes on them; because they were never turned in for anything of monetary value that the sponsor had to pay for.

Let the sponsor know a.s.a.p. that you can no longer afford to take the trip. More than likely, they will award it to an alternate.

I received a 1099 for the vouchers, so that says to me that I had to report them on my taxes. I got the 1099, the IRS got the 1099. Seems to me I would be asking for trouble if I did not report the value of the vouchers.
 
I received a 1099 for the vouchers, so that says to me that I had to report them on my taxes. I got the 1099, the IRS got the 1099. Seems to me I would be asking for trouble if I did not report the value of the vouchers.

The IRS allows you to dispute a 1099. They give you three options. You can request that the sponsor readjust 1099 (the sponsor isn't going to check to make sure the vouchers were exchanged for tickets), they have a form you can fill out that the IRS will send to the sponsor to prove the costs reported on the 1099 (the sponsor can respond to it, but they don't have to), or you can document costs proving what expenditures there actually were.

We had one trip that we requested the sponsor readjust the 1099, and they did. They told us that their accounting department just filled it out for the full ARV without checking the actual expenditures.

One trip, we sent in out backup documentation of the trips costs and a copy of the unused voucher from the five we had.
 
wow! some of 'ya are well informed on this subject! impressive!
I was glad to read these, to get more insight on this subject!
Thanks, everyone who has contributed! well appreciative(sp?)
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