3mnkids1
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That is early. 4th grade. luckily I had already had "the" talk with her. I knew she would start early because she was already ummm, very developed if ya know what I mean. poor thing. she is twelve now and wears a c cup.
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That is early. 4th grade. luckily I had already had "the" talk with her. I knew she would start early because she was already ummm, very developed if ya know what I mean. poor thing. she is twelve now and wears a c cup.
completelyme
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You guys are killing me!!
I just know niece will be starting sooner rather than later. The cramps that she gets cannot be explained or blamed on anything in particular. If I don't watch her when she does start, she'll more than likely forget to change up or just not do it at all. She's like the boys...carefree and forgetful or just doesn't give a crap. Last thing I want is to have to ask her, "Did you change your pad?" :booty"
I'll just send her to gorgor's sister :laughing:
I just know niece will be starting sooner rather than later. The cramps that she gets cannot be explained or blamed on anything in particular. If I don't watch her when she does start, she'll more than likely forget to change up or just not do it at all. She's like the boys...carefree and forgetful or just doesn't give a crap. Last thing I want is to have to ask her, "Did you change your pad?" :booty"
I'll just send her to gorgor's sister :laughing:
pinkbunny44
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I need a little lovin, ♫
At least two times a day,
So when I call you boy,
You better run here right away,
Show me you know about a woooman's soul...♫♫♫..oh yeah!
Ok, I'm done, great workout, I'm pooped :crazytongue:
At least two times a day,
So when I call you boy,
You better run here right away,
Show me you know about a woooman's soul...♫♫♫..oh yeah!
Ok, I'm done, great workout, I'm pooped :crazytongue:
completelyme
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I'm working out these pretzels. Hubby says it sounds like I'm grinding the bones of the arm of the poor soul who tried to get some :laughing:
tharedhead
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I started the week after my 9th birthday. I also know of two 9 year olds locally who have had babies :sunny:
Would completelyme like a full list of every fatal or serious chronic illness that can cause unexplained cramps in a preadolescence? :scratch: :laughing:
Hey, sometimes I'm right, my roommate was just diagnosed with Dermatitis herpetiformis (by biopsy) I kept saying it was not a fungus... :error:
completelyme
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Yeah, you got one?
tharedhead
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First, a short list of questions-are these cramps accompanied by any nausea, vomiting, constipation, diarrhea? Has she been having any unusual bruising? Any visual complaints (double vision, seeing bright lights) Does she ever faint? Does she have any problems with heat? Are the cramps ever accompanied by rash? Have you ever noticed if the cramping seems to follow her eating certain foods? What tests have been run so far? Abdominal CT, MRI, Barium Swallow? Serum calcium, parathyroid hormone tests? Liver function? Has she had any unusual weight gain or loss?
(you should see my long list of questions :laughing
Female babies can actually have (sometimes huge) ovarian cysts at birth, due to the effects of the maternal hormones.
Generally, females with abdominal pain are stuffed in the IBS "wastebasket" where they sometimes die. Really annoys me, since that is how I lost my aunt Thelma (her "IBS" was ovarian cancer)
completelyme
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Red, Ping-SO glad you guys brought up ovarian cysts! I actually have PCOS and I had to fight to get the official diagnosis. I have one cyst on my left ovary that has shrunk from BCPs. I've had relatively mild pain with it and only when I'm menstruating. I do not ovulate and suffer from amenorrhea. BCPs help with that and some other various PCOS symptoms like weight gain and chin acne.
Mother had various cysts on one or both ovaries when I was growing up. Her's would hurt like hell until they burst and she'd feel loads better. I remember her rocking back and forth and crying. She was never officially diagnosed with PCOS of course.
Diabetes runs EXTREMELY heavy on Mother's side of the family. Female cancer isn't lost to us either. Mother's had uteran and breast cancer and lost her aunt many years ago to ovarian cancer. My granny had to have a complete hysterectomy at an early age as well.
Now with my niece, she's had a recent physical check-up from her pediatrician. She went in December. Her mother took her and most likely didn't ask any questions. I've only known about the cramps since March which is around the time they started. She has occasional nausea with them, loss of appetite, and nothing else(I get like this right before and during my period-this is why I figured it may be her cycle getting ready to start). She's rather skinny but so is her mother.
Mother had various cysts on one or both ovaries when I was growing up. Her's would hurt like hell until they burst and she'd feel loads better. I remember her rocking back and forth and crying. She was never officially diagnosed with PCOS of course.
Diabetes runs EXTREMELY heavy on Mother's side of the family. Female cancer isn't lost to us either. Mother's had uteran and breast cancer and lost her aunt many years ago to ovarian cancer. My granny had to have a complete hysterectomy at an early age as well.
Now with my niece, she's had a recent physical check-up from her pediatrician. She went in December. Her mother took her and most likely didn't ask any questions. I've only known about the cramps since March which is around the time they started. She has occasional nausea with them, loss of appetite, and nothing else(I get like this right before and during my period-this is why I figured it may be her cycle getting ready to start). She's rather skinny but so is her mother.
My niece has PCOS (I probably do also...just not diagnosed) and has just found out she was pregnant. She had to take hormones to help her ovulate...she hadn't had a period since she was in high school ~ 10 years ago!
We aren't telling anyone around here she is pregnant yet until she carries the baby for awhile due to the chance of miscarriage! There is only one baby and everything seems to be going well. She is due at Thanksgiving ~ I just hope everything goes alright!!
I have been to the ER untold times due to ovarian cysts. I end up in the bed doubled over and hoping to die at times! The worse ones I end up in the ER...some are SO much worse than others. I was on Megase (spelling?) for over two years to keep me from having periods and ovulating. After I went into kidney failure they took me off of it due to its effects on kidneys. My doctor was about ready to do a complete on me ~ he told me he will see how I do for a year first :cussing:
Caitlyn is having trouble already. My Momma ended up having a complete hysterectomy at 35 or 36. My sister Pam had to have hers at 37. So that kind of trouble runs in the family. They barely got my Momma's ovary out before it ruptured. Both Pam and Momma had already started early menopause when they had to have their hysterectomy...
We aren't telling anyone around here she is pregnant yet until she carries the baby for awhile due to the chance of miscarriage! There is only one baby and everything seems to be going well. She is due at Thanksgiving ~ I just hope everything goes alright!!
I have been to the ER untold times due to ovarian cysts. I end up in the bed doubled over and hoping to die at times! The worse ones I end up in the ER...some are SO much worse than others. I was on Megase (spelling?) for over two years to keep me from having periods and ovulating. After I went into kidney failure they took me off of it due to its effects on kidneys. My doctor was about ready to do a complete on me ~ he told me he will see how I do for a year first :cussing:
Caitlyn is having trouble already. My Momma ended up having a complete hysterectomy at 35 or 36. My sister Pam had to have hers at 37. So that kind of trouble runs in the family. They barely got my Momma's ovary out before it ruptured. Both Pam and Momma had already started early menopause when they had to have their hysterectomy...
completelyme
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Wow, Ping Pong! That is definately some family history of cysts! It sounds rather indicative of PCOS. That could explain your weight gain as well. I gained weight despite exercise and a healthy diet/lifestyle, stopped menstruating, developed chin acne, developed strange anxiety, especially during menstruation, nauseated all of the time, and more than usual hair shedding.
I'm insulin resistant. My body doesn't metabolize sugar properly. I take cinnamon for proper blood sugar metabolization and fish oil for various related and unrelated PCOS issues. Thank God I don't have to take metformin or any other meds for PCOS...just Ortho Cyclen. I have a pretty mild case of PCOS, thankfully.
And Ping-it would also explain the anxiety and panic attacks you sometimes get. Not saying YES! You definately have PCOS!, because PCOS has so many broad symptoms, but it is a possibility.
I'm insulin resistant. My body doesn't metabolize sugar properly. I take cinnamon for proper blood sugar metabolization and fish oil for various related and unrelated PCOS issues. Thank God I don't have to take metformin or any other meds for PCOS...just Ortho Cyclen. I have a pretty mild case of PCOS, thankfully.
And Ping-it would also explain the anxiety and panic attacks you sometimes get. Not saying YES! You definately have PCOS!, because PCOS has so many broad symptoms, but it is a possibility.
Well...it has been discussed ~ that is as far as it has gotten. Of course I had diabetes when I was pregnant and I am pretty sure that is an indicator as well...I need to read up on it again. I've had so much wrong that I have forgotten which is which ~lol!!
gorgor
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You are so fun to be around. :nono: :laughing: :laughing:
completelyme
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Hey, if she's serious I'd appreciate that! I don't recall any cramps of any sort at 11. Not until I started at 14, so if niece has something wrong with her I'd owe Red dearly!
tharedhead
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If she is having nausea or loss of appetite they really need to do more testing. Kids are showing up with the most amazing things these days-there are a couple of kids on my other list who had gallstones by the age of eight! They used to think this was rare. A sonogram, liver function test-at least. There are several articles online about increasing gallstone prevelance
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10765901
Makes me wonder what we're feeding the kids or something
opcorn:
If you get any more details that could help narrow it down I'd be happy to research further
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10765901
Makes me wonder what we're feeding the kids or something
opcorn:If you get any more details that could help narrow it down I'd be happy to research further
completelyme
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Red-I will admit that I have often wondered if it may be her candy and sugar intake. Long before we started having her all week long and since she was a wee little girl, her mother would allow her as many sweets and as much sugar as she wanted. That along with her mother not making her brush her teeth resulted in my niece having to have all of her front teeth and various other teeth pulled at the age of 4.
I've had her full-time now for close to 3 months. I don't buy candy OR sweets so all week long, she's eating well and feeling great. She goes home on the weekends to her mother and God only knows what she's eating. Her mother eats crap like that for meals so I can only imagine what my niece is eating. That and once she's back home with her mother, she's being shuffled from house to house, left with others who may or may not be feeding her properly.
I didn't want to have to mention this, but I'm going to. Her mother is naturally thin. But, there have been rumors that her mother is anorexic and bulemic. In fact, we think they may be more than rumors because over the course of a year her mother has lost all front teeth. All of them. Her mother also had to have a toe cut off because it wouldn't heal for which we speculated was from either malnutrition ,poor diet, diabetes, or all of the above. The mother has had gallstones removed so that could also be a factor for my niece I guess.
I've been secretly watching my niece's eating behaviors and bathroom behaviors like a hawk! She doesn't pick at her food and eats a normal amount of it at each meal without problems. She doesn't attempt to throw it up or show any signs of bulemia or anorexia. The stomach aches start right before the 30 minute drive here from her mother's or right at bedtime. I've started going through her bags to see if she's hiding candy and have found wrappers. She always tells me they are old candy wrappers and she hasn't had any at the time of questioning. So now I check her bags secretly as she comes in every night from her mother's(she goes to school in a different town and goes to her mother's after school each night until we pick her up).
I'm going to take a look at the link you've provided. If you think it may be sugar intake let me know.
I've had her full-time now for close to 3 months. I don't buy candy OR sweets so all week long, she's eating well and feeling great. She goes home on the weekends to her mother and God only knows what she's eating. Her mother eats crap like that for meals so I can only imagine what my niece is eating. That and once she's back home with her mother, she's being shuffled from house to house, left with others who may or may not be feeding her properly.
I didn't want to have to mention this, but I'm going to. Her mother is naturally thin. But, there have been rumors that her mother is anorexic and bulemic. In fact, we think they may be more than rumors because over the course of a year her mother has lost all front teeth. All of them. Her mother also had to have a toe cut off because it wouldn't heal for which we speculated was from either malnutrition ,poor diet, diabetes, or all of the above. The mother has had gallstones removed so that could also be a factor for my niece I guess.
I've been secretly watching my niece's eating behaviors and bathroom behaviors like a hawk! She doesn't pick at her food and eats a normal amount of it at each meal without problems. She doesn't attempt to throw it up or show any signs of bulemia or anorexia. The stomach aches start right before the 30 minute drive here from her mother's or right at bedtime. I've started going through her bags to see if she's hiding candy and have found wrappers. She always tells me they are old candy wrappers and she hasn't had any at the time of questioning. So now I check her bags secretly as she comes in every night from her mother's(she goes to school in a different town and goes to her mother's after school each night until we pick her up).
I'm going to take a look at the link you've provided. If you think it may be sugar intake let me know.
tharedhead
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The tooth loss and amputation are interesting. There are a lot of causes of eating disorders (pancreas disorders, various forms of gastritis, autoimmune illness, celiac...like 50 or 60 other things... :errorthat could be hereditary and manfest as cramps/nausea in childhood. Sugar should not be an issue, although too much of it is of course not good for you. Sounds like the poor kid is having a very difficult life. I'm glad she has someone who is concerned about her :sunny:
If she ever wakes up with nausea or vomiting or has very dark colored urine please get her to the ER (impacted gall stone symptoms).
that could be hereditary and manfest as cramps/nausea in childhood. Sugar should not be an issue, although too much of it is of course not good for you. Sounds like the poor kid is having a very difficult life. I'm glad she has someone who is concerned about her :sunny:If she ever wakes up with nausea or vomiting or has very dark colored urine please get her to the ER (impacted gall stone symptoms).
completelyme
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I seriouly can't thank you enough. Like I said, it is amazing you touched on something I completely forgot about. It's hard trying to keep all of the mother's illnesses together. Your post above surprised me. I was like yeah, she does have those illness also!!
Thanks again!
Thanks again!