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The introduction of sex education in the public schools is the point there began an increase where more teenagers were having sex, an increase in pregnancy, and decrease in age at when they start. Sex education arouses the curiosity of children who are not mentally mature enough to handle such information thereby seeking out the real thing.
 
I am looking forward to her speech tonight and I hope this may silence some of the media. It sounds a little like the Obama campaign is a little worried. I will give him credit though he did say the children should be off limits. Good for him.
 
no disrespect but I gotta disagree. Hormones cause curiosity about sex, not the discussion of it. I believe sex education is a good thing. Should be taught in every single school. Teaching only abstinence's is crazy.
 
And I disagree with that statement because no amount of education will stop someone if they want to get into trouble of any sort. No disrespect.
 
Public schools are supposed to be teaching academics--nothing more. Talk of sex is the parent's responsibility. I'm 45. We didn't have sex ed, and there was only one girl in the four years I was there that was pregnant. Neither my 14- or 15-year-old boys have had sex ed, and they don't even have an interest in such things. My 15-year-old is just noticing girls.

Parents should be raising their children, not the schools.
 
LIDARKSIDE said:
Public schools are supposed to be teaching academics--nothing more. Talk of sex is the parent's responsibility. I'm 45. We didn't have sex ed, and there was only one girl in the four years I was there that was pregnant. Neither my 14- or 15-year-old boys have had sex ed, and they don't even have an interest in such things. My 15-year-old is just noticing girls.

Parents should be raising their children, not the schools.
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I agree
 
cin said:
And I disagree with that statement because no amount of education will stop someone if they want to get into trouble of any sort. No disrespect.
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That's true but shouldn't they be allowed the education. How is education a bad thing. They teach dissecting frogs in school that doesn't mean the children are going to go home and cut up the family dog to have a peek. Its about knowledge and last time a checked that was a good thing. Some kids wont listen and get pregnant or get a std.. But for some they will be better educated about their bodies. and that is a good thing.

And as for parents teaching their children that would be great if they all did that. Some parents cant be bothered to teach their children anything. You could say the same thing about manners, that's a parents responsibility but it doesn't stop the school from trying to teach them manners, raise your hand, don't speak out of turn.. etc... Its not just about teaching children reading and writing.
 
LIDARKSIDE said:
The introduction of sex education in the public schools is the point there began an increase where more teenagers were having sex, an increase in pregnancy, and decrease in age at when they start. Sex education arouses the curiosity of children who are not mentally mature enough to handle such information thereby seeking out the real thing.
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As opposed to hearing about sex and seeing sexual images just about everywhere. No. That doesn't peek their interest at all. Children aren't curious in the least when they start getting that tingly feeling down there either. And teaching children how one's body evolves sexually and being sexually responsible can't possibly help a child whose parents are living in denial or who just don't care or aren't involved.

I'd love to see some statistics where the introduction of sex education caused the majority of teenagers to run out real quick and have a bunch of unprotected sex and get knocked up. That's like saying teaching my sons bicycle safety will cause them to deliberately go ride their bike without a helmet and get hurt.
 
This is one of those topics that there will always be two sides to the story. No I don't think sex education should be allowed in schools because from what I have read it has not helped. And I happen to think that is one less thing I want the government to be in charge of. It should be up to the parents and if the parents don't teach them then that is a whole different topic altogether.

Like I said there will always be two differing opinions on this topic and I guess that's why there are different political parties. We will never agree on certain issues but that doesn't mean we can't get along.
 
LIDARKSIDE said:
Public schools are supposed to be teaching academics--nothing more. Talk of sex is the parent's responsibility. I'm 45. We didn't have sex ed, and there was only one girl in the four years I was there that was pregnant. Neither my 14- or 15-year-old boys have had sex ed, and they don't even have an interest in such things. My 15-year-old is just noticing girls.

Parents should be raising their children, not the schools.
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A lot of children do not have that privilige of mom, dad, or both teaching them about sex. What about those kids? We had sex ed and my mother and father refused to talk to us about sex. Good thing I paid attention I guess!!

Times are way different, LDS and cin. Teach your children about sex and whatever you wish. But don't keep the kids who don't have "involved parents" from getting an education that may save their life or from a life of poverty.
 
Actually, there are reports showing that sex, drug, and alcohol education (DARE program has been revamped over 10 times, because it isn't working) are direct "GRADUAL" causes in the increases over the years in all such related areas. You can probably search them out on the internet. I had paper copies of all information involving public schools when I was involved for seven years with grassroots groups against all this nonsense they have been bringing into the schools.

As I said, parents should be raising their children, not the schools. Are they your children or theirs?
 
This is a two sided discussion that many have and still do debate over. My best friend put her girls on the pill I did not. It's a matter of choice. Which is even what it will come down to by the person wanting to have sex or not. This isn't new. I think children can figure it out on their own as to rather they understand their bodies or not.
 
My parents didn't talk to me about sex, and neither did my friend's parents; and we didn't have the problems of your generation or younger.
 
And I happen to think that is one less thing I want the government to be in charge of. It should be up to the parents and if the parents don't teach them then that is a whole different topic altogether.
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But you're OK with electing officials into office that want to be in charge of telling a woman what to do with her own body? You're OK with the government imposing on my right as a woman to make my own decisions on what is best for me and my body, right?

And what do you suppose we do with the children whose parents aren't teaching them about sex?
 
I think children can figure it out on their own as to rather they understand their bodies or not.
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OK, so you are saying that children are supposed to figure out what sex is all about on their own? How so? You just agreed with LDS that children aren't mentally mature enough to make those decisions. I'm confused :scratch:

My parents didn't talk to me about sex, and neither did my friend's parents; and we didn't have the problems of your generation or younger.
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But you just said it's up to the parents to teach their children about sex. So like I asked cin, now children are supposed to figure it out on their own? So, which is it, ladies?
 
cin said:
LIDARKSIDE said:
My parents didn't talk to me about sex, and neither did my friend's parents; and we didn't have the problems of your generation or younger.
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I agree again. I guess we had to figure it out without the government telling us what to do.
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You have to see the hypocrisy in what you are saying. Again, you agree it is the parents responsibility to teach their children about sex and now you're saying a child just has to go and figure it out. Again I ask which is it?

And the hypocrisy on the government telling us what to do in terms of sex education. You never did answer. It's OK for them to tell me I can't make my own decisions in regards to my body but you don't want them making the decision to have sex ed in schools? You can't say you want the government involved in one issue but not the other. You can't pick and choose.
 
This is my view ~ in a perfect world sex ed. wouldn't be necessary, but this isn't a perfect world. My kids have been through sex ed. and I have talked to all of my kids about sex (Ashelyn's talks aren't that indepth yet) but they understand where I stand on the subject and I know how they feel. There has to be a fine line there. You have to know that they have the knowledge that they will need one of these days when they do become sexually active. You know, I hope my kids wait, but realistically I don't know that will happen. I'm not so naive to believe that they don't have the very same feelings that I myself had at that age. How they will handle them, I don't know...I do know that they have an open door to come and talk to me about anything!

I have raised my kids very carefully. I am carefully to watch what they see on TV. They don't watch subjective movies and such. I really do try to censor stuff. They have great friends and haven't been able to gallop all around the county doing whatever they want to on a whim, but again, when they go out of the house they see and hear things that I can't control. They have there own minds and their on feelings. I can't control that, all I can hope for is to be a part of their important decision making process from here on out. Kids can have a way of blocking out their parents, and so far mine don't. Caitlyn and I are extremely close for a mother and a 15 year old and she says that she wants to wait until she is married to have sex. I hope she does ~ she says it will just complicate her life more than it is and she doesn't have time for it...I just hope her boyfriend keeps on feeling the same way! Seems to be a great boy so far yet. Considering that they are only 15 and not allowed to date, this is the easy time to say that though!

I just don't believe this is a one size fits all catagory. I know that some of these kids "need" to be able to talk to someone besides their parents. Some parents would rather die than mention S-E-X to their kids, Jimmie being one of them. He can't believe that I talk to my kids the way that I do. I just am not going to do my girls the way I was done!
 
Tammy you are a good parent for talking to your children. I did the same but I have to say when I was young we talked to our friends about sex. We would never talk to our parents and there was no sex education in school. What is there to know really. Don't have sex or else you could get pregnant or a disease. All I am saying is I guess for all eternity men and women knew about sex without needing someone to explain it.

I just think the schools should stay out of that department.
 
Have you been around a bunch of kids and just listened to them lately? It is just amazing ~ I was at a middle school football game last night and a group of middle school kids were sitting behind me and the things that were coming out of those kids mouths were terrible! I would love to say that I am surprised, but I'm not, being around kids this age more often than not I hear stuff like this and I make sure to point it out to my kids that it isn't acceptable talk ~ PERIOD! It isn't cute, and it isn't funny! It is gross and tacky and that if I ever hear that they act like that in public they won't be in public alone anymore. My kids have this great fear of me embarassing them in public anyway...they know that I will say stuff that I think is funny to people so they are scared when I say something like that!

I don't believe that schools are the whole problem. I think they are a part of the bigger picture. Kids are allowed to raise themselves anymore. Look at what is allowed on TV now. All of this stuff added up is just to much of an overload for a little young mind to take in. It is no wonder that kids are depressed and having the problems that they are!
 
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